Well said. John
> -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Eggers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:13 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: RE:I don4t understand the objective of this open list! > > > I agree as well. There is a lot of documentation out > there. > > Is it always in the form that I find most easily > digestable? Probably not. Do I have to rely on > examples, the source code, and some judicious > tinkering? Probably. > > However, complaining about it and asking generic > questions like "URGENT - WHY DOESN'T THIS WORK?" > doesn't get the questions answered. > > Here are the assumptions I work under. Be aware that > they are assumptions . . . . > > 1. Tomcat is a reasonably complex piece of software. > 2. Members of the list have varying levels of > expertise. > 3. Members of the list contribute time and energy > without material compensation. > > So, when I run into a problem with (pick your favorite > Apache technology), there is a systematic way I go > about things. > > 0. Read the documentation. > > 1. Start with "baby" steps. > This means find an Apache example that is similar to > what I'm doing, and attempt to understand it one step > at a time. > > 2. Change one thing at a time. > > 3. When stuck, reproduce the problem with the smallest > amount of extra 'code'. > > 4. Search the archives for problems similar to mine. > Remember that people will often arrive at the same > problem from different directions, so search > accordingly. > > 5. Ask a succinct (not like this message!) question of > the mailing list. > > As a courtesy, as you have been helped, so shall you > help. If you're fairly new to this stuff like myself > (at least in any real depth), then keep your answers > simple, and base it on your direct experience. > > Finally, if the document is really insufficient write > your own based on your own experience. If people find > it helpful, return the document to the Jakarta > project. That way we all benefit. New people get up > to speed faster, the mailing list does not get [as > many] repeat questions, and we all get to attack more > complex problems with Tomcat. > > /mde/ > > just my two cents . . . . > > PS - Yes, this is freely available software, and there > is not necessarily a staff of engineers to help you > understand it. This means you must do more of the > work yourself in understanding the system. I happen > to think that this is a benefit, since you now have > knowledge of the principles behind JSP / Servlets, and > their containers. This knowledge of the principles > can be leveraged in understanding other web > application environments. > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>