Stephen Lau wrote:

>> Given that the author can _always_ come back with a counter-proposal,
>> I see no lasting harm that was done by amending the original proposal
>> and approving that amended version.
>>   
> Except now we've created a CG that is significantly different in scope 
> from what the original proposers wanted.  We left no path for working 
> out a compromise proposal that might have satisfied both parties 
> involved.  What can the author counter-propose with?  His CG is already 
> chartered and created, only in a form that different enough that he is 
> clearly dissatisfied with it.

That's certainly my understanding from Keith's emails - the Website CG 
was voted into existence by the OGB.  If that is not correct, could the 
OGB please provide a clarification.

>> I don't think we're being "a giant dick" about it.  Instead, we chose
>> an option that allows the submitter to choose what to do: either go
>> ahead with the narrower solution, or strike that and come up with
>> something else more to his liking.  We certainly have not said that
>> changes are somehow impossible.
>>   
> No - we haven't left him the option.  Keith said we (the OGB) have 
> created this community group now - so we are forcing the narrower 
> solution upon him.  If we had given back the amended proposal and 
> rejected the creation of the CG, *then* the submitter would have a choice.

Again, that is my understanding as well.

>> That's really not all that different from what would happen if we sent
>> it back to the author, except that there's an already-approved
>> variation now available, should the author want it
> Disagree.  If I'm understanding what Keith is saying, as of now, the 
> Website Project no longer exists - and the Website CG exists instead.  
> Not only is it approved, it's been implemented.

The confusion surrounding this gives me an issue as to where my Auth 
project gate and related documents should live.  I would much appreciate 
a clarification from the OGB - thanks.

-- 
Alan Burlison
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