Nikola Smolenski wrote: > On Wednesday 11 June 2008 23:03:28 Platonides wrote: >> I'm Ccing Wikitech, i suggest we follow this thread there. > > I'm answering on the foundation-l, given that I don't follow wikitech-l, you > do follow foundation-l, and the issues you raise are more community than > software related.
I'm not, and i disagree on that, but if the messages arrive to some of the other two lists, i'll read them anyway :) >> Nikola Smolenski wrote: >> > (thread about interwiki bots at toolserver) >>> Coincidentally, yesterday I released a MediaWiki extension which, if >>> accepted on Wikimedia projects, may make interwiki bots much less busy. >>> See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/A_newer_look_at_the_interwiki_link >> It also works by manual writing of the interwikis. I don't think it's >> the good way. >> *You're not taking into account page moves. What will you do when a page >> is moved? (by a low tech user which knows nothing about the global wiki) > > I am taking into account page moves. Right now, when a page is moved, if it > has 20 interwiki links, someone has to update 20 pages on 20 Wikipedias. With > the extension, someone has to update a single page on a single wiki - > clearly, something that is easier to do. But the page has 20 interwikis to the right version. So a >> *The articles will still have a 'preferred' title at the interwiki wiki. >> That means discussing about article titles, "Move to English name", "No, >> that's not", "Interwikis with pages on Chinese are ugly!"... > > I proposed an easy and fair solution: use the name of the page on the first > wiki that covered the topic. If a topic has first been written about on the > Vietnamese Wikipedia, use the Vietnamese name. Either way, redirects work, > and even edit wars of this kind should pose no problem. I know. But i think avoiding any name is better. >> IMHO it should be a shared table referencing the wiki and page ids. >> Then you provide a Special page showing all pages on that group. You'd >> reference it as 'include this page into the group XX:sometitle is on'. >> You can also provide some space for free-form commenting (such as >> explaining the difference with another page). >> Obviously, all of that must be properly logged, which with SUL should be >> much easier. > > Everything that you described already exists, without the special page. The > shared table is the langlinks table on the central wiki; you reference it by > using {{#interlanguage:sometitle}}; free-form commenting is the text on the > central wiki page; it is properly logged in the page history. Mmm, you're right. I'd prefer using page_ids, but a more db guy than me should determine the efficiency difference of using ll_title (the page title) instead. I notice now that ll_title can't hold any wiki title, as it's a varchar(255) with namespace, while titles are stored varchar(255) without namespace everywhere else. _______________________________________________ Toolserver-l mailing list Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l
