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In article <m3hbcesjx1....@passepartout.tim-landscheidt.de>,
Tim Landscheidt  <t...@tim-landscheidt.de> wrote:
> one obvious solution would be to treat the Toolserver database servers 
> as part of WMF's domain so they can use their SOPs (*1) to maintain 
> them instead of manually coordinating with the Toolserver admins (or 
> not).

I don't think that would be any easier.  Our database systems are 
completely different from theirs, so it would require all WMF admins to 
learn (and remember) a new procedure before they could change anything 
on their side.  Since they usually don't think to notify us of major 
changes in advance, I don't think they would be very happy with that.

        - river.
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