W0BTU wrote: " The low dipole should be inferior to a 1/4 wave vertical at a 25 degree elevation, but my models do not show that, by any means."
You probably are using a Mininec ground under the dipole. A low horizontal wire over a Mininec ground is a rule violation. Try using a real ground. Read the EZNEC help file on ground types. Also a vertical on 160 will have an advantage that does not show on NEC plots. Look up the effects of the Earth's gyro frequency. Jerry, K4SAV > > _______________________________________________ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
