Agreed fully. But the very low output antennas usually go hand in hand with 
small suburban or non rural environs and thus very noisy.  To achieve a useful 
sn ratio with all the noise and low output is a big challenge especially if you 
are not in the lower latitudes.  I note n4is comments from noisy FL lot BUT 
there is a huge diff in propagation and sig levels from there to NY area.  U 
keep believing more and more that an additional factor for good rx conditions 
is also wide open terrain and not only because those are typically quiet. 
During a recent area wide power blackout here for 5 days it was very quiet but 
still could t hear many things others less than 100 miles were hearing in far 
more open land.  I think it's because arrival angles are so low obstructions 
will degrade levels.  

I have no issues on 80 and higher. Hear what everyone else does but 160 is a 
major major challenge on rx. 

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On Nov 30, 2011, at 5:08 PM, wb6r...@mac.com wrote:

> I've used a variety of loops, from a small rotatable coax diamond to my 
> present receiving antenna, a large 14 x 29 ft flag.
> It is more useful to think of these antennas as providing directivity, not 
> gain. What's important is a relative improvement in signal to noise ratio. It 
> is not unusual to have improved copy on the desired signal while the loop is 
> pointed at other than a dead on heading.
> 
> 73 - Steve WB6RSE
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