On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Rick Karlquist <rich...@karlquist.com> wrote: > We already know that folding an antenna element has no advantage > over loading coils, why should radials be any different? > > Rick N6RK
There is the problem. The folds in a single wire 5/16 wave folded counterpoise are designed to cancel near fields and not radiate. Now you're saying to add hanging coils in a setting where people are trying to do invisible things? Even if it's exactly the same, which I really doubt, it's additional cost. Why would I choose extra cost and visibility, and more weight on the supports? We're not trying to adjust the laws of physics to suit ourselves, and not claiming miracles. We're trying to take care of folks in small lot and HOA circumstances. Some knife switches in certain places would allow you to compare the FCP in situ with two long radials. But these buggers are being done where you can't put out two radials. W0UCE would have to go negotiate with both his neighbors and spend some neighbor capital to get it done. But what issue and need would this expenditure be addressing? I certainly don't know. I DO have NEC4 which absolutely pans two elevated 1/4 wave radials and is most likely UNDERESTIMATING it's losses. But also I might have a place to do your test. But it is time and travel and effort. What is being gained by the expenditure? What is the REAL reason for this pile of objections all of a sudden? 73, Guy. _______________________________________________ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK