Very true but the RF is still in the oil "dielectric" from the coax connector to the hot end of the resistor.

Carl
KM1H


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That uses the thermal properties outside a resistor, not dielectric constant properties in a capacitor :-).

Tim N3QE

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The large Bird dummy loads use oil up into the low microwave region.

Carl
KM1H


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Still I am intrigued by the thought of a remote tuning capacitor via
hydraulic tubing :-). The capacitor plates could be as simple as two
concentric cylinder conductors with appropriate spacers. I betcha crud
collecting on the top of the oil would set voltage limit.>>>

I would be as concerned, or more concerned, with the dissipation factor of
the oil at short wave frequencies.

The thing that worries me is I cannot recall every seeing a single good
high-Q oil-dielectric capacitor above power line and audio frequencies. As
a matter of fact, many years ago I tried to use a surplus 20-40kV oil
capacitor from Fair Radio as a plate blocking capacitor, and it overheated
so badly it exploded.

I looked for HF data on mineral oil as a dielectric and couldn't find
anything. That would be my main concern. I guess I could stick mineral oil
between the plates of a capacitor and see what happens to Q.


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