Drifting the thread slightly: I read an article recently regarding 2 loops of 
15ft square separated by 15ft which the author called Loop On Ground, LOG.  He 
claimed good results on receive over a period of a year.  It was very low gain 
but had directional properties and was said to be quiet.    I can't lay my 
hands on the site just now, but it might be of interest.

David G3UNA

> 
>     On 01 August 2018 at 17:15 donov...@starpower.net wrote:
> 
>     Hi Mike,
> 
>     A horizontally polarized loop -- or any other horizontally polarized
>     160 meter antenna -- has extremely poor sensitivity when installed
>     less than about 0.1 wavelenght above the ground. Even if you raise
>     a horizontally polarized loop to about 0.1 wavelength (50 feet on 160
>     meters) it will be a poor antenna for DXing because of its insensitivity
>     to low angles of arrival.
> 
>     73
>     Frank
>     W3LPL
> 
>     ----- Original Message -----
> 
>     From: "W0MU Mike Fatchett" <w...@w0mu.com>
>     To: topband@contesting.com
>     Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 3:40:10 PM
>     Subject: Topband: WB6RSE Flag type loop question
> 
>     Has anyone tried a loop like this in the Horizontal plane? I suppose
>     if one had an AZ mount they could try it from horizontal to Vertical.
> 
>     His flag build was in the July 2015 QST.
> 
>     W0MU
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