Gorge, What is the  rx 4 direction delta loop you mentioned below. Thanks Fred 
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-------- Original message --------From: GEORGE WALLNER <aa...@atlanticbb.net> 
Date: 8/21/20  3:30 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" 
<rich...@karlquist.com>, donov...@erols.com, Ron WV4P <wv4...@gmail.com> Cc: 
160 <topband@contesting.com>, Mail 10 <mai...@barefoothorse.com.au> Subject: 
Re: Topband: Rohn 25 Vertical questions. At C6AGU I have in-band RX on all 
bands. The rigs are Flex 6000 SDR-s. On 160 m I can hear virtually unimpaired 
to about 12 kHz off the TX frequency. RX antenna is 4 direction delta loop, 
about 1000' from the TX vertical. The RX path includes a high performance RX 
pre-amp. (The RX antenna "gain" is -32 dBi.)SDR-s can work for in-band RX, but 
you must have a very "clean" RX (and TX) paths and plenty of antenna 
separation. Also, lots of shielding and grounding.73,George,AA7JV/C6AGUOn Thu, 
20 Aug 2020 15:17:29 -0700  "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <rich...@karlquist.com> 
wrote:>>> On 8/19/2020 10:28 PM, donov...@erols.com wrote:>> Hi Ron,>>>>>> 
700-1200 foot spacing should provide good in-band receiving capability.>> SDR 
receivers won't work for in-band receive, you must use a traditional>> 
transceiver such as the K3, K4HD, FTdx5000, IC-7800 etc.>>>>>> Micro-arcing is 
caused by transmitted RF jumping a spark gap.>> Any metal-to-metal joint that 
isn't securely bonded is a candidate>> for micro-arcing.>>>>>> 73>> Frank>> 
W3LPL>>> Three questions:>> 1.  Does "in-band receiving" mean the same thing as 
SO2R in a single> band contest?  I operated a few 160 meter contests in that 
mode around> 10 years ago.  I used a carefully nulled receiving loop 1000 ft 
from the> TX vertical.>> 2.  Please explain the comment about SDR receivers not 
working.  I> now have a Flex 6700 that claims to be able to do full duplex.  
And> that radio would not work?>> 3.  If connections between R25 sections 
cannot be trusted, then> how would any crank up tower possibly work as a 
vertical?  I have> always wondered about this.>> BTW, cellular sites have 
significant problems with what they> call "passive IMD", of which micro-arcing 
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