That works! Many thanks, Michel ! Great! 2017-10-28 23:37 GMT+08:00 Bohms, H.M. (Michel) <[email protected]>:
> Should be...make the qudt unit a subclass of rdfs datatype! > > > Verzonden van mijn Android-telefoon via TouchDown (www.symantec.com) > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* [email protected] [[email protected]] > *Received:* zaterdag, 28 okt. 2017, 14:02 > *To:* TopBraid Suite Users [[email protected]] > *Subject:* Re: [topbraid-users] Re: question: how to create a > user-defined datatype? > > Hi Michel, > > Sorry for the late reply. I've been busy with some other tasks. > Thank you very much for providing all the links regarding Qudt! > > After exploring Qudt (http://www.qudt.org/), I found this vocabulary > really useful -*http://qudt.org/1.1/vocab/OVG_units-qudt-(v1.1).ttl > <http://qudt.org/1.1/vocab/OVG_units-qudt-(v1.1).ttl>*, as it contains > all the units I'm interested in (i.e.: currency, kilogram, gram, oz). > > However, I still cannot achieve what I want. > > Learning from your bridge example, I was expecting to do the following: > > *:price* > * rdf:type owl:DatatypeProperty ;* > * rdfs:domain :Product ;* > * rdfs:range unit:SingaporeDollar ;* > * .* > > But after importing *http://qudt.org/1.1/vocab/OVG_units-qudt-(v1.1).ttl > <http://qudt.org/1.1/vocab/OVG_units-qudt-(v1.1).ttl>* into my ontology, > it seems in *unit:SingaporeDollar* is *not a built-in datatype*, but *just > an instance* to the class *qudt:CurrencyUnit*. > > So, currently, I am doing following: > > :price > rdf:type owl:DatatypeProperty ; > rdfs:domain :Product ; > rdfs:range qudt:CurrencyUnit ; > rdfs:range xsd:decimal ; > > :KitKatValuePack12Plus2 > rdf:type :Product ; > :price unit:SingaporeDollar ; > :price 6.00 ; > . > > But, it's really not what I want... > > Just really wondering, why in your examle, *unit:M* seems to be used as a > *build-in > datatype*? > > *simple:height* > * rdf:type owl:DatatypeProperty ;* > * rdfs:range unit:M ;* > *.* > > *Is it my issue* (e.g., not knowing how to make use of the vocabulary - > http://qudt.org/1.1/vocab/OVG_units-qudt-(v1.1).ttl),* or it is the > vocabulary's problem* (i.e. I am using the wrong one)? > > Thank you for your help in advance! > > 在 2017年10月26日星期四 UTC+8下午3:38:35，Bohms, H.M. (Michel)写道： >> >> Works for me on mobile too, but still not via tno (any browser >> chrome/ie/edge/firefox) >> >> Seem to be some security issue (chrome says: connection is not safe) >> >> My it-dept will look into it, maybe our side issue >> >> >> >> Tbc michel >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Böhms >> Senior Data Scientist >> >> T +31888663107 <+31%2088%20866%203107> >> M +31630381220 <+31%206%2030381220> >> E [email protected] >> >> Location >> <https://www.google.com/maps/place/TNO+-+Locatie+Delft+-+Stieltjesweg/@52.000788,4.3745183,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x47c5b58c52869997:0x56681566be3b8c88!8m2!3d52.000788!4d4.376707> >> >> >> >> <http://www.tno.nl/> >> >> This message may contain information that is not intended for you. If you >> are not the addressee or if this message was sent to you by mistake, you >> are requested to inform the sender and delete the message. TNO accepts no >> liability for the content of this e-mail, for the manner in which you use >> it and for damage of any kind resulting from the risks inherent to the >> electronic transmission of messages. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Ralph Hodgson [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* donderdag 26 oktober 2017 00:08 >> *To:* Bohms, H.M. (Michel) <[email protected]>; >> [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [topbraid-users] Re: question: how to create a >> user-defined datatype? >> >> >> >> Worked for me here in Utrecht >> >> >> >> On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 at 16:32, Bohms, H.M. (Michel) <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Oeps, I retested and it seems the qudt.org is a dead link now! >> >> >> >> Maybe intential, I copied Ralph in. >> >> >> >> So for now I only have a github link (but you might need permission >> first). >> >> I hope Ralph can help you with that. >> >> >> >> Gr Michel >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ps wrt earlier “double-check”: >> >> >> >> see from primer: >> >> “ >> >> 5.4 Enumeration of Individuals >> >> A very straightforward way to describe a class is just to enumerate all >> its instances. OWL provides this possibility, e.g. we can create a class of >> birthday guests: >> >> *Turtle Syntax* >> >> :MyBirthdayGuests owl:equivalentClass [ >> >> rdf:type owl:Class ; >> >> owl:oneOf ( :Bill :John :Mary ) >> >> ] . >> >> Note that this axiom provides more information than simply asserting >> class membership of Bill, John, and Mary as described in Section 4.1. In >> addition to that, it also stipulates that Bill, John, and Mary are the >> *only* members of MyBirthdayGuests. Therefore, classes defined this way >> are sometimes referred to as *closed classes* or enumerated sets. If we >> now assert Jeff as an instance of MyBirthdayGuests, the consequence is that >> Jeff must be equal to one of the above three persons. >> >> “ >> >> As you can see it says “also”. So it seems that if you do one of, typing >> is not needed anymore. However I can remember an earlier discussion on this >> that you can also do both typing *and* one of, maybe other have further >> comments here. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Böhms >> Senior Data Scientist >> >> T +31888663107 <+31%2088%20866%203107> >> M +31630381220 <+31%206%2030381220> >> E [email protected] >> >> Location >> <https://www.google.com/maps/place/TNO+-+Locatie+Delft+-+Stieltjesweg/@52.000788,4.3745183,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x47c5b58c52869997:0x56681566be3b8c88!8m2!3d52.000788!4d4.376707> >> >> >> >> <http://www.tno.nl/> >> >> This message may contain information that is not intended for you. If you >> are not the addressee or if this message was sent to you by mistake, you >> are requested to inform the sender and delete the message. TNO accepts no >> liability for the content of this e-mail, for the manner in which you use >> it and for damage of any kind resulting from the risks inherent to the >> electronic transmission of messages. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Bohms, H.M. (Michel) >> *Sent:* woensdag 25 oktober 2017 16:14 >> *To:* '[email protected]' <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* RE: [topbraid-users] Re: question: how to create a >> user-defined datatype? >> >> >> >> Fyi: >> >> >> >> [QUDT] http://www.qudt.org/, some relevant deeper >> references: >> >> · Catalog - http://www.qudt.org/release2/qudt-catalog.html >> >> · QUDT schema - http://qudt.org/doc/2016/DOC_S >> CHEMA-QUDT-v2.0.html >> >> https://github.com/TopQuadrant/qudt-dev/ (currently on invitation >> only!), some relevant deeper references: >> >> · Basic quantities - http://qudt.org/2.0/vocab/quantitykind/base >> (not yet downloadable/dereferenceable) >> >> o File: VOCAB_QUDT-BASE-QUANTITY-KINDS-v2.0.ttl >> >> · Base units - http://qudt.org/2.0/vocab/unit/space-and-time >> (not yet downloadable/dereferenceable) >> >> o File: VOCAB_QUDT-UNITS-SPACE-AND-TIME-v2.0.ttl >> >> >> >> (All files adapted correcting import/prefix bugs) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Böhms >> Senior Data Scientist >> >> T +31888663107 <+31%2088%20866%203107> >> M +31630381220 <+31%206%2030381220> >> E [email protected] >> >> Location >> <https://www.google.com/maps/place/TNO+-+Locatie+Delft+-+Stieltjesweg/@52.000788,4.3745183,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x47c5b58c52869997:0x56681566be3b8c88!8m2!3d52.000788!4d4.376707> >> >> >> >> <http://www.tno.nl/> >> >> This message may contain information that is not intended for you. If you >> are not the addressee or if this message was sent to you by mistake, you >> are requested to inform the sender and delete the message. TNO accepts no >> liability for the content of this e-mail, for the manner in which you use >> it and for damage of any kind resulting from the risks inherent to the >> electronic transmission of messages. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On >> Behalf Of *[email protected] >> *Sent:* woensdag 25 oktober 2017 15:58 >> *To:* TopBraid Suite Users <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [topbraid-users] Re: question: how to create a >> user-defined datatype? >> >> >> >> Thank you very much Michel! >> >> >> >> Ok, seems I need to search & downloand qudt2.0... >> >> >> >> I will follow your suggestion. [just read a little bit on owl:oneOf. to >> double check, do you mean via rdf:DataRange+owl:oneOf in "which relate to >> such units and then enumerate (via rdf:type + owl:oneOf)"?] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 在 2017年10月25日星期三 UTC+8下午7:48:50，Bohms, H.M. (Michel)写道： >> >> >> >> Much clearer now! >> >> >> >> So indeed revert to classes and then: >> >> 1. which relate to such units and then enumerate (via rdf:type + >> owl:oneOf), or >> >> 2. or which do not relate to units but enumerate things like >> 12gram, 178gram etc.) which seems a bit implicit to me… >> >> >> >> ie something like (1): >> >> >> >> powerful:Velocity_1 >> >> rdf:type powerful:Velocity ; >> >> qudt:numericValue "128.0"^^xsd:float ; >> >> qudt:unit unit:KM-PER-HR ; >> >> . >> >> But then minus the numericvalue and adding individual ref. values >> >> >> >> Hope that is useful >> >> >> >> >> >> Wrt qudt2.0: indeed not yet dereferenceable so you need the right files >> locally… >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Böhms >> Senior Data Scientist >> >> T +31888663107 <+31%2088%20866%203107> >> M +31630381220 <+31%206%2030381220> >> E [email protected] >> >> Location >> <https://www.google.com/maps/place/TNO+-+Locatie+Delft+-+Stieltjesweg/@52.000788,4.3745183,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x47c5b58c52869997:0x56681566be3b8c88!8m2!3d52.000788!4d4.376707> >> >> >> >> <http://www.tno.nl/> >> >> This message may contain information that is not intended for you. If you >> are not the addressee or if this message was sent to you by mistake, you >> are requested to inform the sender and delete the message. TNO accepts no >> liability for the content of this e-mail, for the manner in which you use >> it and for damage of any kind resulting from the risks inherent to the >> electronic transmission of messages. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] * >> On Behalf Of *[email protected] >> *Sent:* woensdag 25 oktober 2017 13:36 >> *To:* TopBraid Suite Users <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [topbraid-users] Re: question: how to create a >> user-defined datatype? >> >> >> >> Hi Michel, >> >> >> >> Thank you very much for the quick reply! >> >> >> >> Sorry didn't express my issue clearly. >> >> Yes, I actually want two things: 1. adding unit info 2. being able to >> create user-defined fixed standard values. >> >> >> >> Seems your answer helped with the first issue. I have been never known >> there is this ontology about unit of measure! Seems very useful! >> >> Though, I tried to import "http://qudt.org/2.0/vocab/unit/space-and-time/"; >> into TBC, it failed. The error log says: failed to inspect, could not >> complete import. >> >> Do you have any idea why it is so? >> >> >> >> As to the second issue, I still have no clue.... >> >> >> 在 2017年10月25日星期三 UTC+8下午7:16:56，Bohms, H.M. (Michel)写道： >> >> >> >> Maybe consider an approach to define simply >> >> >> >> A weight datatypeproperty with range a datatype unit:gram (from e.g. >> qudt2.0) as datatype >> >> >> >> Ex: >> >> @prefix unit: <http://qudt.org/2.0/vocab/unit/space-and-time/> . >> >> >> >> qudt:Unit >> >> rdfs:subClassOf rdfs:Datatype ; >> >> . >> >> >> >> simple:height >> >> rdf:type owl:DatatypeProperty ; >> >> rdfs:range unit:M ; >> >> . >> >> >> >> simple:Bridge_1 >> >> rdf:type simple:Bridge ; >> >> cmo:hasDirectPart simple:Deck_1 ; >> >> simple:currentlyServingVehicle simple:Vehicle_1 ; >> >> simple:height "50.0"^^unit:M ; >> >> . >> >> >> >> If not good enough turn to classes where you can attach the unit info >> other than via datatype and/or instantiate reference enumerated items >> >> (it’s not fully clear to me what you main issue is: adding unit info or >> being able to deal with fixed standard values, or both…) >> >> >> >> Gr michel >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Böhms >> Senior Data Scientist >> >> T +31888663107 <+31%2088%20866%203107> >> M +31630381220 <+31%206%2030381220> >> E [email protected] >> >> Location >> <https://www.google.com/maps/place/TNO+-+Locatie+Delft+-+Stieltjesweg/@52.000788,4.3745183,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x47c5b58c52869997:0x56681566be3b8c88!8m2!3d52.000788!4d4.376707> >> >> >> >> <http://www.tno.nl/> >> >> This message may contain information that is not intended for you. If you >> are not the addressee or if this message was sent to you by mistake, you >> are requested to inform the sender and delete the message. TNO accepts no >> liability for the content of this e-mail, for the manner in which you use >> it and for damage of any kind resulting from the risks inherent to the >> electronic transmission of messages. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] * >> On Behalf Of *[email protected] >> *Sent:* woensdag 25 oktober 2017 12:38 >> *To:* TopBraid Suite Users <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [topbraid-users] Re: question: how to create a >> user-defined datatype? >> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> I've read this whole thread, but hasn't found useful info for my issue. >> >> >> >> I want to define a datatype as follows: >> >> 0. It will be the range of datatype property called "hasWeight", defined >> by myself; >> >> 1. I will name this datatype as "WeightOfProduct"; >> >> 2. It has two attributes: weight, unit of measure; >> >> 3. An instance of this datatype would be: 39gm. >> >> >> >> I plan to apply it in the following case: >> >> [Kit Kat Value Pack12Plus2] -(hasWeight) -> 1400gm >> >> >> >> Can anyone instruct me on building it? >> >> >> >> Thanks very much! >> >> 在 2017年7月3日星期一 UTC+8上午8:51:15，Holger Knublauch写道： >> >> Hi Paul, >> >> I am afraid such OWL enumeration datatypes are not well supported right >> now. And we don't plan to add further support for these OWL 2 datatypes in >> general. I believe they have not lived up to expectations and are not >> widely used. Maybe it has to do with the fact that most users would expect >> to have something like "active"^^xsd:string. Moving forward, we plan to >> cover this use case with SHACL (sh:in). >> >> For scenarios such as yours, many people use instances, e.g. define a >> class cti:ObjectStatus with three instances cti:active etc, and then an >> owl:oneOf to enumerate those instances. Would this be an option? >> >> Regards, >> Holger >> >> On 3/07/2017 7:40, Paul Patrick wrote: >> >> This is similar to what I've been trying to do as well and have gotten >> close but clearly am missing a step. >> >> >> >> What I'm trying to do is define a user-defined data type that I can use >> as the datatype for a Range, but it based on a enumeration. I can't define >> it on the predicate directly as I use this same value for a number of >> different predicates. So I'm trying to defined a new user-type that could >> be the range of the predicate. >> >> >> >> I think I've gotten close based on the following code below, but when I >> look at an instance serialized, I see the data type of the selected value >> is string xsd:string. With a suspicion that it was the value followed by >> ^^xsd:string, I went into Source Code view in TopQuadrant and changed the >> "xsd:string" to by datatype "cti:ObjectStatusVocab". >> >> >> >> cti:ObjectStatusVocab >> >> a rdfs:Datatype ; >> >> rdfs:comment "Defines the vocabulary that d...@en-US ; >> >> rdfs:label "Object Status Vocabulary"@en-US ; >> >> rdfs:subClassOf rdfs:Resource ; >> >> owl:onDatatype xsd:string ; >> >> owl:oneOf ( "active"^^xsd:string "deprecated"^^xsd:string >> "revoked"^^xsd:string ) . >> >> >> >> That seemed to work. With this I got the serialization I was looking for: >> >> >> >> <subject_id> <http://example.com/cti#ObjectStatus "active"^^ >> <http://example.com/cti#ObjectStatusVocab> >> <http://example.com/cti#ObjectStatusVocab> . >> >> >> >> So I then tried to do it in the Form view, but it didn't like the >> ["active"^^cti:ObjectStatusVocab","deprecated"^^cti:ObjectStatusVocab, >> "revoked"^^cti:ObjectStatusVocab] so still trying to figure out if I'm >> just doing something wrong or if I've got to use the Source Code view >> because the Form view doesn't let one enter in anything except >> primitive types. >> >> >> >> Can anyone tell me if I'm doing this correct? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thursday, July 24, 2008 at 7:39:38 PM UTC-4, Anne Hunt wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> In the TopBraid help documentation it states that with OWL 1.1, the user >> has the ability to create their own datatype. Can you give some guidance >> on the steps to create datatypes using the TopBraid Composer UI? Or is >> there another way to do it? I'd like to create something very similar to >> your xsd:string[pattern...] example. >> >> Anne >> >> >> ***From the help docs*** >> User-Defined Datatypes >> Arguably the most important OWL 1.1 feature is the ability to define new >> datatypes, and to use these new datatypes in property ranges and >> restrictions. For example, this can be used to state that adults are >> Persons where the age property must be equal to or greater than 18. The >> current OWL 1.1 datatype support is similar to XML Schema datatypes, >> allowing to define datatypes with facets such as minInclusive, length and >> pattern. Here are some examples to how such datatypes are defined in >> TopBraid Composer: >> >> xsd:int[>=18] - all ints greater than or equal to 18 >> xsd:float[>0.7, <2.3] - floating point numbers between 0.7 and 2.3 >> xsd:float[totalDigits 4, fractionDigits 2] - numbers such as 12.34 >> xsd:string[pattern "a[b]c*"] - strings that match the regular expression, >> e.g. "a", "abc", "accccc" >> xsd:string[length 27] - strings with exact length of 27 characters >> xsd:string[minLength 1, maxLength 8] - strings with at least 1 but at >> most 8 characters >> dataComplementOf(xsd:int[>=18]) - integers less than 18 >> There are essentially three ways to use these new expressions: >> >> Use the data range expressions as rdfs:range of a datatype property >> Use data range expressions as fillers of owl:allValuesFrom or >> owl:someValuesFrom restrictions >> Create a named owl:DataRange and set the associated facets such as >> minInclusive manually >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TopBraid Suite Users" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TopBraid Suite Users" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TopBraid Suite Users" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TopBraid Suite Users" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> >> Sent from Gmail Mobile >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TopBraid Suite Users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "TopBraid Suite Users" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > topic/topbraid-users/i5pfTbVsd8s/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TopBraid Suite Users" group. 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