Yes
Its is just that I have to start edg, clear content, import new updated 
data,….or is there a faster way?






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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Holger Knublauch
Sent: 13 November 2017 10:43
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] restrictions in swa default app

Hi Michel,

out of interest: would it be possible for you to switch from the default SWA 
app to EVN/EDG Ontology Editor? It has much richer support for SHACL. The 
default app is really primarily for demos and poking around.

Holger

On 13/11/2017 18:44, Bohms, H.M. (Michel) wrote:
Hi Irene

Deleting all targetClasses and integrating the constraints in the class/shape 
solved my issue indeed:

I was just wondering about the 3 empty lines under Constraints (se figure 
below). The corr. code is:

stip:Data
  rdf:type owl:Class ;
  rdf:type sh:NodeShape ;
  rdfs:label "Data" ;
  rdfs:subClassOf owl:Thing ;
  sh:property [
      sh:path stip:describingObject ;
      sh:class stip:Object ;
      sh:minCount 1 ;
      sh:name "describingObject" ;
      sh:nodeKind sh:IRI ;
    ] ;
  sh:property [
      sh:path stip:hasEditor ;
      sh:class stip:Person ;
      sh:maxCount 1 ;
      sh:minCount 1 ;
      sh:name "hasEditor" ;
      sh:nodeKind sh:IRI ;
    ] ;
  sh:property [
      sh:path stip:hasOwner ;
      sh:class stip:Party ;
      sh:maxCount 1 ;
      sh:minCount 1 ;
      sh:name "hasOwner" ;
      sh:nodeKind sh:IRI ;
    ] ;
.


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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Irene Polikoff
Sent: 10 November 2017 21:12
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] restrictions in swa default app

No, keep sh:class if you want SHACL validation of this.

I just didn't think you also needed a sh:node unless you were concerned about 
blank nodes. In any case, you can have both.

On Nov 10, 2017, at 3:05 PM, Bohms, H.M. (Michel) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


The table displays property shapes defined directly for a class or its parents 
- not those that may have been defined in some other shapes that use this class 
in the target statements.

>ahhh ok, thought that would be equivalent!
>I will remodel and check



Also, I don’t think you need to set a sh:class constraint and a sh:node 
constraint - unless you are concerned that there could be blank nodes with 
rdf:type stip:Topic. I think that would be unusual.

>I used sh:class to indicate allvaluesfrom … (since I model no ranges anymore 
>for my properties)
>better model range for properties and delete sh:class ate the specific classes?







On Nov 10, 2017, at 1:37 PM, Bohms, H.M. (Michel) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



Ok, in that case I think this does not work yet I think…

(to be precise: my current shacl property constraint are not visible when I 
startup the default SWA application)

Example:

<image002.png>

In swa:

<image003.jpg>
So zero constraint over there…

Hope this helps to clarify my issue, Michel





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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Irene Polikoff
Sent: vrijdag 10 november 2017 14:38
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Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] restrictions in swa default app

Yes, they should be

On Nov 10, 2017, at 2:36 AM, Bohms, H.M. (Michel) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

All owl restrictions go still indeed fine.

I am just testing situation:

  *   Use owl limited that is without restrictions
  *   Use shacl for all restrictions (since we want validation, not inference)
  *   So I was wondering whether those sh constraints would still be visible in 
the default app gui….






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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Holger Knublauch
Sent: vrijdag 10 november 2017 00:42
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Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] restrictions in swa default app

I tried it with kennedys and the table is still there

<image002.png>

Even if I add rdf:type sh:NodeShape to that class, the form is still OK for me. 
What exactly are you testing - what triples does your class definition consist 
of?

Holger






On 10/11/2017 6:49, Bohms, H.M. (Michel) wrote:
For owl restrictions we had property table info in swa default app.
Now using shacl there gone, is that intential or also related to missing labels?

Thx MIchel






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