Yes we did fork the TTL writer many years ago, as part of producing sorted/diff-friendly output. This explains the difference in behaviour. I have recorded an internal development ticket (TBS-3212) to address this for a future release.

Holger


On 8/08/2020 20:42, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users wrote:
Ahhh ok so indeed a version issue
Well maybe a future update might resolve this then...holger?

Op 8 aug. 2020 10:53 schreef "an...@seaborne.org" <a...@seaborne.org>:
Hi Michel,

That output is from TBC's own Turtle writer, not from Jena at all.
The TBC writer is forked and modified code from an old Jena2 N3/Turtle writer that Jena no longer uses.

    Andy

On Friday, 7 August 2020 at 10:56:08 UTC+1 Bohms, H.M. (Michel) wrote:

    Hi Andy

    So what does this mean for my example?

    I actually put in the second form and get the first in tbc…

    Could it be a jena version used issue?

    Thx michel

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    *Onderwerp:* Re: [topbraid-users] prefix issue ...

    Apache Jena outputs localname with DOT in it (when legal - it
    can't be last)

    Input:

    PREFIX crb:     <https://w3id.org/def/crb#>
    PREFIX rdf:     <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#>

    <https://w3id.org/def/crb#E3.2>
      a crb:EBKP_HType ;
    .

    riot --output TTL D.ttl

    @prefix crb:  <https://w3id.org/def/crb#> .
    @prefix rdf:  <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#> .

    crb:E3.2  rdf:type  crb:EBKP_HType .

        Andy

    On Thursday, 6 August 2020 at 01:48:51 UTC+1 Holger Knublauch wrote:

        We are using the Jena API, so you may want to follow up on the
        jena-users mailing list on this question. But yes, it does not
        use prefixes if the local name contains the . character for me
        too.

        Holger

        On 6/08/2020 04:36, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite
        Users wrote:

            My code:

            # baseURI: https://w3id.org/def/crb

            # imports: https://w3id.org/def/smls-shacl

            # prefix: crb

            @prefix crb: <https://w3id.org/def/crb#>
            <https://w3id.org/def/crb> .

            @prefix dash: <http://datashapes.org/dash#>
            <http://datashapes.org/dash> .

            @prefix ifc: <http://www.buildingsmart.com/def/ifc#>
            <http://www.buildingsmart.com/def/ifc> .

            @prefix owl: <http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#>
            <http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl> .

            @prefix quantitykind:
            <http://qudt.org/vocab/quantitykind/>
            <http://qudt.org/vocab/quantitykind/> .

            @prefix qudt: <http://qudt.org/schema/qudt/>
            <http://qudt.org/schema/qudt/> .

            @prefix rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#>
            <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns> .

            @prefix rdfs: <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#>
            <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema> .

            @prefix sh: <http://www.w3.org/ns/shacl#>
            <http://www.w3.org/ns/shacl> .

            @prefix skos: <http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core#>
            <http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core> .

            @prefix smls-shacl: <https://w3id.org/def/smls-shacl#>
            <https://w3id.org/def/smls-shacl> .

            @prefix unit: <http://qudt.org/vocab/unit/>
            <http://qudt.org/vocab/unit/> .

            @prefix xsd: <http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#>
            <http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema> .

            ifc:IfcDoor

              a rdfs:Class ;

            .

            ifc:Pset_DoorCommon

              a rdfs:Container ;

              rdfs:member ifc:isExternal ;

            .

            ifc:isExternal

              a rdf:Property ;

              rdfs:domain ifc:IfcDoor ;

              rdfs:range xsd:boolean ;

            .

            <https://w3id.org/def/crb> <https://w3id.org/def/crb>

              a owl:Ontology ;

              owl:imports <https://w3id.org/def/smls-shacl>
            <https://w3id.org/def/smls-shacl> ;

            .

            crb:Door

              a rdfs:Class ;

              rdfs:subClassOf smls-shacl:PhysicalObject ;

            .

            *crb:E3.1*

            *  a crb:EBKP_HType ;*

            *.*

            *crb:E3.2*

            *  a crb:EBKP_HType ;*

            *.*

            *crb:E3.3*

            *  a crb:EBKP_HType ;*

            *.*

            crb:EBKP_HType

              a rdfs:Class ;

            .

            crb:ExteriorDoor

              a rdfs:Class ;

              rdfs:subClassOf crb:Door ;

            .

            crb:ExteriorDoorShape

              a sh:NodeShape ;

              sh:property [

                  a sh:PropertyShape ;

                  sh:path ifc:eBKP_H ;

            *sh:hasValue crb:E3.1 ;*

                ] ;

              sh:property [

                  a sh:PropertyShape ;

                  sh:path ifc:isExternal ;

                  sh:hasValue true ;

                ] ;

              sh:property [

                  a sh:PropertyShape ;

                  sh:path (

            crb:crb_Measure_Pressure_kn_m2

            rdf:value

                    ) ;

                  sh:datatype xsd:decimal ;

            sh:minInclusive 0.8 ;

                ] ;

              sh:targetClass crb:ExteriorDoor ;

            .

            crb:ProductX

              a ifc:IfcDoor ;

              a crb:ExteriorDoor ;

              ifc:isExternal true ;

            crb:crb_Measure_Pressure_kn_m2 [

                  rdf:value 0.5 ;

                ] ;

              crb:eBKP_H <https://w3id.org/def/crb#E3.1>
            <https://w3id.org/def/crb#E3.1> ;

            .

            crb:crb_Measure_Pressure_kn_m2

              a rdf:Property ;

              smls-shacl:unit unit:KiloPA ;

            .

            crb:eBKP_H

              a rdf:Property ;

              rdfs:range crb:EBKP_HType ;

            .

            *Is changed by tbc to:*

            # baseURI: https://w3id.org/def/crb

            # imports: https://w3id.org/def/smls-shacl

            # prefix: crb

            @prefix crb: <https://w3id.org/def/crb#>
            <https://w3id.org/def/crb> .

            @prefix dash: <http://datashapes.org/dash#>
            <http://datashapes.org/dash> .

            @prefix ifc: <http://www.buildingsmart.com/def/ifc#>
            <http://www.buildingsmart.com/def/ifc> .

            @prefix owl: <http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#>
            <http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl> .

            @prefix quantitykind:
            <http://qudt.org/vocab/quantitykind/>
            <http://qudt.org/vocab/quantitykind/> .

            @prefix qudt: <http://qudt.org/schema/qudt/>
            <http://qudt.org/schema/qudt/> .

            @prefix rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#>
            <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns> .

            @prefix rdfs: <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#>
            <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema> .

            @prefix sh: <http://www.w3.org/ns/shacl#>
            <http://www.w3.org/ns/shacl> .

            @prefix skos: <http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core#>
            <http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core> .

            @prefix smls-shacl: <https://w3id.org/def/smls-shacl#>
            <https://w3id.org/def/smls-shacl> .

            @prefix unit: <http://qudt.org/vocab/unit/>
            <http://qudt.org/vocab/unit/> .

            @prefix xsd: <http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#>
            <http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema> .

            ifc:IfcDoor

              a rdfs:Class ;

            .

            ifc:Pset_DoorCommon

              a rdfs:Container ;

              rdfs:member ifc:isExternal ;

            .

            ifc:isExternal

              a rdf:Property ;

              rdfs:domain ifc:IfcDoor ;

              rdfs:range xsd:boolean ;

            .

            <https://w3id.org/def/crb> <https://w3id.org/def/crb>

              a owl:Ontology ;

              owl:imports <https://w3id.org/def/smls-shacl>
            <https://w3id.org/def/smls-shacl> ;

            .

            crb:Door

              a rdfs:Class ;

              rdfs:subClassOf smls-shacl:PhysicalObject ;

            .

            *<https://w3id.org/def/crb#E3.1>
            <https://w3id.org/def/crb#E3.1>*

            *  a crb:EBKP_HType ;*

            *.*

            *<https://w3id.org/def/crb#E3.2>
            <https://w3id.org/def/crb#E3.2>*

            *  a crb:EBKP_HType ;*

            *.*

            *<https://w3id.org/def/crb#E3.3>
            <https://w3id.org/def/crb#E3.3>*

            *  a crb:EBKP_HType ;*

            *.*

            crb:EBKP_HType

              a rdfs:Class ;

            .

            crb:ExteriorDoor

              a rdfs:Class ;

              rdfs:subClassOf crb:Door ;

            .

            crb:ExteriorDoorShape

              a sh:NodeShape ;

              sh:property [

                  a sh:PropertyShape ;

                  sh:path ifc:eBKP_H ;

            *sh:hasValue <https://w3id.org/def/crb#E3.1>
            <https://w3id.org/def/crb#E3.1> ;*

                ] ;

              sh:property [

                  a sh:PropertyShape ;

                  sh:path ifc:isExternal ;

                  sh:hasValue true ;

                ] ;

              sh:property [

                  a sh:PropertyShape ;

                  sh:path (

            crb:crb_Measure_Pressure_kn_m2

            rdf:value

                    ) ;

                  sh:datatype xsd:decimal ;

            sh:minInclusive 0.8 ;

                ] ;

              sh:targetClass crb:ExteriorDoor ;

            .

            crb:ProductX

              a ifc:IfcDoor ;

              a crb:ExteriorDoor ;

              ifc:isExternal true ;

            crb:crb_Measure_Pressure_kn_m2 [

                  rdf:value 0.5 ;

                ] ;

            *  crb:eBKP_H <https://w3id.org/def/crb#E3.1>
            <https://w3id.org/def/crb#E3.1> ;*

            .

            crb:crb_Measure_Pressure_kn_m2

              a rdf:Property ;

              smls-shacl:unit unit:KiloPA ;

            .

            crb:eBKP_H

              a rdf:Property ;

              rdfs:range crb:EBKP_HType ;

            .

            Why is that? Is a dot not allowed?

            Thx Michel

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