#21321: .onion HTTP is shown as non-secure in Tor Browser -------------------------------------------------+------------------------- Reporter: cypherpunks | Owner: tbb- | team Type: task | Status: new Priority: High | Milestone: Component: Applications/Tor Browser | Version: Severity: Blocker | Resolution: Keywords: ff52-esr, tbb-usability, ux-team, | Actual Points: TorBrowserTeam201706 | Parent ID: | Points: Reviewer: | Sponsor: -------------------------------------------------+-------------------------
Comment (by linda): Hi, the UX team has reviewed this ticket, and we recommend removing the warnings as soon as possible and working on messaging thereafter. I think that there are two problems to solve, 1) the password and padlock warnings are misleading users, telling them that something is secure when it isn't 2) educating users on what secure means. I think that we can, and should, solve these issues independently. Getting rid of the warnings will be a much better improvement than leaving them up, even if there is no explanation. Of course, it would be good to educate users on why .onion sites are secure. When we onboard users to Tor, we should mention .onion sites and other features on first use, and show information on .onion sites when they first visit an onion website. Additionally, we can also put a message when you click on or hover over the "secure" indicator (something like [https://share.riseup.net/#fi-f_QKZqY8pV8Kf0BXR9g this]) that says why .onion sites are safe, for people who are wondering why it is safe. I, Linda, especially agree with mrphs' comment, who suggested: Replying to [comment:19 mrphs]: > 1- Remove the password warning. (this is immediate) > 2- Remove the padlock warning. (also immediate, preferably at the same time with 1) > 3- Improve our messaging with user about .onion URLs in Tor Browser to make sure we're consistent (more long-term but prevents us from situations like this) We're essentially recommending the same thing, with an emphasis on separating out 1+2 from 3. > I guess the reason I'm leaving this comment is that we don't get into a rabbit hole that gets us away from fixing this immediate need. +1, we should fix this issue, and solve on working on user understanding later. Ultimately, the warnings are more confusing and interrupting user flow. -- Ticket URL: <https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/21321#comment:34> Tor Bug Tracker & Wiki <https://trac.torproject.org/> The Tor Project: anonymity online _______________________________________________ tor-bugs mailing list tor-bugs@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-bugs