I really am upset on giving up. But if I cant figure this all out jensm then I can be a pain the the yazoo to you people. I relaize the more relays the better for the project but I just think it is a bit over my head. I will check back in later and maybe unscribe tomorrow.
Daniel
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From: jensm1 <jen...@bbjh.de>
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You're right, of course. The technically correct way would be to filter
by the List-Id field and thunderbird supports this. I actually didn't
know about this header field till now, thanks for pointing it out! But
as you said, most webmails are crap (gmail apparently supports it, but
not directly).
The problem is, that this functionality is usually so well hidden, that
even experienced users won't find it if they don't know exactly what
they want to do, so filtering by subject/from/to - although technically
"wrong" - is the only "visible" way to do it.
Am 04.09.2016 um 15:28 schrieb grarpamp:
> On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 8:17 AM, jensm1 <jen...@bbjh.de> wrote:
>> you can then configure your inbox to
>> put everything containing [tor-relays] into its own folder
> This is non ideal as it continues the poor notion that bloating everyone's
> subject lines with, currently 13, characters of non content junk is a good idea,
> and it will cause mismatches on nonlist material.
> The proper way to segregate a list is to match on envelope headers such as
> the included X-BeenThere:, List-Id:, Sender:, not meta material in the body.
> Unix users can easily use fetchmail and maildrop to do this.
> Thunderbird and other clients should be able to.
> Webmails are typically junk so no guarantees there.
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Am 01.09.2016 um 05:36 schrieb I:
> Did someone mention t-shirts?
I got my weather notification in January, recieved the t-shirt one week
ago.
Thanks!
Sebastian
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On 09/03/2016 05:35 PM, jensm1 wrote:
> I agree to everything Matt said.
>
> A good rule of thumb for tor configuration is "leave everything at
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I concur. Generally speaking you really don't have to get under the hood
much. Tor's ready to roll right out of the chute!
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Do embassies and consulates run Tor nodes? AFAIK no studies have been
done on this, but diplomatic immunity and Tor would seem to be a match
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You're right, of course. The technically correct way would be to filter
by the List-Id field and thunderbird supports this. I actually didn't
know about this header field till now, thanks for pointing it out! But
as you said, most webmails are crap (gmail apparently supports it, but
not directly).
The problem is, that this functionality is usually so well hidden, that
even experienced users won't find it if they don't know exactly what
they want to do, so filtering by subject/from/to - although technically
"wrong" - is the only "visible" way to do it.
Am 04.09.2016 um 15:28 schrieb grarpamp:
> On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 8:17 AM, jensm1 <jen...@bbjh.de> wrote:
>> you can then configure your inbox to
>> put everything containing [tor-relays] into its own folder
> This is non ideal as it continues the poor notion that bloating everyone's
> subject lines with, currently 13, characters of non content junk is a good idea,
> and it will cause mismatches on nonlist material.
> The proper way to segregate a list is to match on envelope headers such as
> the included X-BeenThere:, List-Id:, Sender:, not meta material in the body.
> Unix users can easily use fetchmail and maildrop to do this.
> Thunderbird and other clients should be able to.
> Webmails are typically junk so no guarantees there.
> _______________________________________________
> tor-relays mailing list
> tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
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Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 16:50:13 +0200
From: Sebastian Niehaus <nieh...@web.de>
To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
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Am 01.09.2016 um 05:36 schrieb I:
> Did someone mention t-shirts?
I got my weather notification in January, recieved the t-shirt one week
ago.
Thanks!
Sebastian
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On 09/03/2016 05:35 PM, jensm1 wrote:
> I agree to everything Matt said.
>
> A good rule of thumb for tor configuration is "leave everything at
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I concur. Generally speaking you really don't have to get under the hood
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