----- Forwarded message from Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com> -----
From: Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:22:48 -0800
To: Tom Beecher <tbeec...@localnet.com>
Cc: NANOG <na...@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if
you can.
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Yes, but if you are operating a TOR node, it's not entirely clear to me that
you are not actually an ISP (whether you
realize that or not).
You are, after all, providing a form of internet access to non-paying customers.
Owen
On Nov 29, 2012, at 11:58 , Tom Beecher <tbeec...@localnet.com> wrote:
> Not really comparable.
>
> Speaking from a US point of view, ISPs has strong legal protections isolating
> them from culpability for the actions of their customers. I know
> internationally things are different, but here in the US the ISP doesn't get
> dinged, except in certain cases where they are legally required to remove
> access to material and don't.
>
> End users have no such protections that I'm aware of that cover them
> similarly.
>
> On 11/29/2012 2:50 PM, George Herbert wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Tom Beecher <tbeec...@localnet.com> wrote:
>>> Assuming it's true, it was bound to happen. Running anything , TOR or
>>> otherwise, that allows strangers to do whatever they want is just folly.
>> Such as, say, an Internet Service Provider business?
>>
>> ...
>>
>
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