Am 2014-07-02 17:56, schrieb s7r: > On 7/2/2014 2:54 PM, MacLemon wrote: >> Hey! > >> On 02 Jul 2014, at 03:49, C B <cb...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> in no way makes Montblac, Southworth, or Smith's Stationary the >>> least bit responsible for the bank robbery. This ruling is a >>> clear lack of understanding of how the Internet and Tor work. > >> I totally agree. It contradicts Austrian legislation of the so >> called “Provider's privilege” which states that the operator or >> provider of a service is not liable for the data transmitted over >> said service. > >> Following that mis-ruling the Austrian Post Office would be liable >> for the goods they deliver (as well as any other delivery service, >> like packages, food, Amazon, or basically any ISP as well.) > >> We'll see how that continues. Best regards MacLemon > > > The subject of this attracted my attention. Are we talking here about > a clear law, written black on white which states that it is illegal to > run Tor relays (or any kind of telecommunications proxy servers) and > that you are responsible for your user's actions, even if you provide > those services free of charge, therefor not required to collect any > data about your users? Is it actually a specific law which was > enforced here clearly stating that you cannot run Tor or open proxy > servers? > no > > Or are we talking about just one decision from a judge who probably > didn't do a proper reading and analysis before applying this decision? > Or maybe the person charged with this was actually doing something > illegal? Anyone has more details? yes > > If so, shouldn't the EU legislation protect you against such an abuse? > In some countries, quite a lot of them actually, there is even no > definition in the law whatsoever for open proxy servers or > telecommunications internet traffic. Internet is (from legal point of > view, no technical - new invention. Tor is newer and science fiction > for the vast majority of people). Does this mean in those countries > you can run anything you want? Or not run anything because you to to > jail for ANOTHER penal code, which makes vague reference about this too. > > That is nonsense. Why not arrest the owners of a stainless steel blade > factory, because some people stab other people with those blades. > >
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