-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi!
> Thease two threads seem important to Tor... (...) - Parliamentary > inquiry about legal status of running Tor in Austria. This is NOT, I repeat, NOT a threat to Tor as misleadingly written before on tor-relays and tor-talk. We are a constitutional state here (believe it or not ...) and until now nobody has been convicted for running a Tor exit. In the case of the Austrian operator the illegal material flowing through the exit was only the starting point for the trial. He was then convicted for "contribution to deliquency" as I wrote on Sunday, because the judges came to the result, that he accepted willingly illegal traffic over his exit. This is a total other thing than running an anonymity service! His fate were these quotes: "You can host 20 TB child porn with us on some encrypted hdds." Chatlog. (1) Here the counter argument was, that he tried as a kind of "private undercover agent" to get information about a botnet from a criminal, forwarded it, and the chat partner was caught later (2). Anyway, the opinion of the judges was another. "I don't give a fuck" Documentated answer to the question, if he knows about the child porn dealt over Tor. (3) There are reasonable opinions from Austrian special lawyers that the judgement is wrong, but the convict does not want to appeal. There are other Exit operators in Austria w/o problems (4) and also the Austrian Pirate Party writes, that Tor is *not illegal* (5) So, but now there are open legal questions how to treat Tor. I would like to quote from MacLemons Mail to tor-relays (6) "From what I understand the goal is to get an official statement by the Austrian ministry of justice that Tor falls under the legal definition of a communications network. Which would mean, that Relay-Ops are not liable for the traffic passing through their relays given they do not initiate the traffic by themselves do not select the recipient of the information do not select or alter the transmitted information" => Whatever the result will be, this discussion needs to take place in the public and the parliamentary inquiry helps! I hope that Tor Exits will be treated more liberal in future, but nobody knows. It should be in the interest of the Tor community to conduct this discussion. If successfull, more volunteers will run exits, so the percentage of the exits of our beloved surveillance services should decrease :-)) Best regards, and: stay wiretapped! Anton 1) http://futurezone.at/netzpolitik/tor-prozess-du-kannst-kinderpornos-auf-unseren-servern-hosten/74.093.526/print https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://futurezone.at/netzpolitik/tor-prozess-du-kannst-kinderpornos-auf-unseren-servern-hosten/74.093.526/print 2) https://rdns.im/part-15 3) http://futurezone.at/netzpolitik/strafe-fuer-tor-betreiber-grazer-urteil-wirft-fragen-auf/73.173.618/print https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://futurezone.at/netzpolitik/strafe-fuer-tor-betreiber-grazer-urteil-wirft-fragen-auf/73.173.618/print 4) http://futurezone.at/netzpolitik/grazer-urteil-kein-grund-tor-relays-abzuschalten/73.365.441/print https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://futurezone.at/netzpolitik/grazer-urteil-kein-grund-tor-relays-abzuschalten/73.365.441/print 5) https://www.piratenpartei.at/tor-netzwerk-nicht-illegal https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.piratenpartei.at/tor-netzwerk-nicht-illegal 6) https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2014-July/004945.html - -- no.thing_to-hide at cryptopathie dot eu 0x30C3CDF0, RSA 2048, 24 Mar 2014 0FF8 A811 8857 1B7E 195B 649E CC26 E1A5 30C3 CDF0 Bitmessage (no metadata): BM-2cXixKZaqzJmTfz6ojiyLzmKg2JbzDnApC On 09/07/14 21:55, grarpamp wrote: > Parliamentary inquiry about legal status of running Tor in Austria -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTvbZfAAoJEMwm4aUww83wgrUH/iOzyK2BlXVVKvg11Z1wnJGX AVQHrCNaPzcnh2T24UpqfxLzSxNA1aZVHN+Rc4Nzt4Hl3/h96FhkAINv3Dm3wewf /k3XWBSgI9/r/h9izP69siZ06WvpcQPy18KZB3QOJcSycOsECzE3sJGzLI4pLQzO alglTTTyohsErMo88VtG+z+GUpIpznM+hBOApQenPkpGlKU/WOHypyj29GCm//Hs Wc0gSLQTNRMjGdury8BtaukQLBBVwlNEDHPl7MFgBOj1t43tUq/oT8GrWnHTiFsE Gd+F12QWJy13XRxJk03hKpHTDEp8vnRnJ6l60tKxI4rIdYjFHa4be5oKVg+vf5M= =KEj0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk