On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 19:38:21 +0100 Öyvind Saether <oyvi...@everdot.org> wrote:
> > That is possible, but I'm not sure I'm fully following. > > Suppose that some "off line" dealer has his phone tapped, and then > > he starts selling through a market like silk road. What of it? > > Why would that lead in any way to finding out who the hidden > > service's owner/admin is? The hidden service's owner isn't > > going to talk on the phone with the dealers who use his > > site. That is not his 'business model'. > > Keep this quote in mind when you consider those idiotic "they must > have found out that you were running a hidden service by tapping your > phone because you were running a hidden service" circular arguments by > obvious cointelpro: Yes, that's more or less what I got from John's message, but I don't mind giving him the benefit of the doubt and reading some sort of clarification of his first post... > > “This is something we want to keep for ourselves,” he said. “The way > we do this, we can’t share with the whole world, because we want to > do it again and again and again.” Well, the criminal organization known as "US government" pretty much acknowledges that their 'justice' system is based on secret trials. Again : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction and "DEA and NSA Team Up to Share Intelligence, Leading to Secret Use of Surveillance in Ordinary Investigations" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/08/dea-and-nsa-team-intelligence-laundering > > http://www.wired.com/2014/11/operation-onymous-dark-web-arrests/ > -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk