On Mon, 6 Apr 2015 20:35:44 -0400 Paul Syverson <paul.syver...@nrl.navy.mil> wrote:
> > More details on the history at > https://www.acsac.org/2011/program/keynotes/ > > > > > I mean we don't need to repeat yet again that tor is a > > project of the US military. As such it doesn't make > > sense for it to be 'decentralized'. > > For the technical reasons behind the degree and nature of > centralization and decentralization, see the above paper and the Tor > design paper. Also note that ironically the first few major design > versions made purely by govt. employees were actually more > decentralized. E.g. see the above paper, also > http://www.onion-router.net/Archives/TNG.html > It was only when we moved to the Tor design, that we moved to being > a bit less P2P with directory authorities. And what point are you making with all that hand waving? 'a bit less p2p'? That's some technical language. > > For more technical arguments why this is in practice more secure than > other designs known at the time see > http://freehaven.net/anonbib/#danezis-pet2008 and > http://freehaven.net/anonbib/#entropist Even assuming that the central servers are more 'secure' (although that's vague - more secure for whom against what kind of attacks) the fact remains that centralized control over the network is something obviously in line with the political objectives of your employers. > > But by all means please continue justifying everything you say based > on what you tenaciously are sure some large organizations must intend Is your contention that your employers don't have any purpose at all? Or that the government responsible for a global surveillance system (among many other sick crimes) also pays you to counter them? lol See, you can play that game only so far. You can pretend to be a 'technician' who knows nothing about politics only so far. On the other hand I do realize that you are just playing a part here, for your audience of lackeys. Obviously you are not going to admit that you are just a tool of the US military providing them with resources to 'spread democracy' in 'oppressed countries'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_United_States_foreign_regime_change_actions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change > rather than the technical design reasons that have been published and > publically vetted by the best scientific and technical researchers on > the planet Oh boy. Are you arrogant. By the way, have you and your friends received any national security letter lately? > from the most respected advanced institutions in every > country. What could they possibly add to the truly dizzying intellect > manifest in your arguments to date? > > Apologies to others for failing to resist feeding the troll. So, you have nothing but name calling. And funnily enough whine about 'ad hominems'. Unintentional self-parody at its best. > Guess I'm > tired. Here's a little ad hominem of my own: Moritz started it. > > aloha, > Paul > > > -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
