Le 04/09/2017 à 18:04, grarpamp a écrit : >> As it happens, I just recently transferred funds internationally. It >> took 36 hours to clear, at a guaranteed rate. My local bank charged >> about $8 in fees (mostly for the overhead of liaising with the local >> receiver of revenue - there's a bunch of paperwork, so I can't really >> object to the fee). My point is that if you're paying absurd taxes and >> taking a week, you might be able to find a better option. >> By contrast BTC, in the same timeframe, dropped more than 10%. If I'd >> been using it to transfer the same funds, I'd have been massively out >> of pocket. >> There are strong arguments for disintermediating financial systems, >> but we don't need to overhype the problem space, and let's not kid >> ourselves that Bitcoin is a silver bullet either. > Except that Bitcoin takes roughly 10 minutes to > clear the first block, so that's invalid comparison. > There is zero paperwork with cryptos, so that's better. > Other users gain more than 10% at times, so that's invalid. > And fees are almost universally both less and flat... better.
Indeed and replacing swift is anyway more the job of Stellar or Ripple than bitcoin > Instead of whining about volatility, understand that > cryptos are not centrally manipulated like fiat Unfortunately I think they are for now, for reasons already explained and I believe that prices are manipulated too, maybe this is linked to http://www.peersm.com/fractals/, "Then we can now easily forecast the price of Bitcoin and become rich", this if for fun right now and I should continue it but the answer at the end is that the very same thing did reproduce again, and does reproduce whatever external event occurs, always the same thing... > , and right now > are quite thin compared to fiat... so volatility is expected there > as perfectly normal price and market discovery mechanism. > Want less volatility, hold and use more cryptos with > more people. Long term they'll be better Yes, this does not contradict my previous argument but we can see that volatility is evaporating with time > and won't go > to shit when your country of choice flips upside down. > > As far as tor goes, many cryptocurrencies can run over tor... > pick a few and run some of their nodes as onions or i2p's. > zensystem.io has perhaps gone farthest with work therein. > > You can send all the clearing time and former fees saved > to this address in the form of golden bullets... > btc:141nbtnunoix7kKjbAspmZVCPamP9rgJST -- Zcash wallets made simple: https://github.com/Ayms/zcash-wallets Bitcoin wallets made simple: https://github.com/Ayms/bitcoin-wallets Get the torrent dynamic blocklist: http://peersm.com/getblocklist Check the 10 M passwords list: http://peersm.com/findmyass Anti-spies and private torrents, dynamic blocklist: http://torrent-live.org Peersm : http://www.peersm.com torrent-live: https://github.com/Ayms/torrent-live node-Tor : https://www.github.com/Ayms/node-Tor GitHub : https://www.github.com/Ayms -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk