Matthew: Built in functionality, maybe, an addon, no. Also either solution is a bandaid to the actual problem that we're allowing an exit with no contact information to censor Tor users with impunity!
On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 8:01 PM Matthew Glennon <matthew@glennon.online> wrote: > Could this be mitigated with a detection addon in Tor Browser? Detect that > the site may be blocked at the exit and offer to fetch a new circuit for > the site? > > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2018, 19:22 Nathaniel Suchy <m...@lunorian.is> wrote: > >> The exit is behind a filtered ISP. Opposed to a website blocking exits. >> That’s the difference. >> >> 1) The content provider causes the block. >> 2) The exit causes the block. >> >> In situation two a censored user may give up on Tor entirely. Should we >> allow exits in China or Iraq or Syria or Turkey or the several other >> countries. What if their governments who can afford it spin up 10,000 exits >> in an effort to censor the Tor Network. Will we sit idly by and allow it? >> >> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 7:17 PM Pascal Terjan <pter...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> A country's ISPs blocking some websites is not the exit blocking it and >>> the result is the same than websites blocking the country, users of that >>> exit can't access the websites just because the exit is in that country but >>> doesn't do any filtering itself. >>> >>> On Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 16:14 Nathaniel Suchy, <m...@lunorian.is> wrote: >>> >>>> That’s a website blocking Tor users. Not a Tor Exit blocking a website. >>>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 7:06 PM Pascal Terjan <pter...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 14:11 Nathaniel Suchy, <m...@lunorian.is> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> So this exit node is censored by Turkey. That means any site blocked >>>>>> in Turkey is blocked on the exit. What about an exit node in China or >>>>>> Syria >>>>>> or Iraq? They censor, should exits there be allowed? I don't think they >>>>>> should. Make them relay only, (and yes that means no Guard or HSDir flags >>>>>> too) situation A could happen. The odds might not be in your favor. Don't >>>>>> risk that! >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Where do you put the limit? >>>>> >>>>> Various categories of websites are blocked in various countries either >>>>> by ISPs or by content providers. >>>>> >>>>> For example should exits not be allowed to run in Germany due to >>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blocking_of_YouTube_videos_in_Germany >>>>> ? Or not allow exits in EU due to the number of US websites deciding to >>>>> block all of EU IPs to not have to comply to GDPR? >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> tor-relays mailing list >>>>> tor-rel...@lists.torproject.org >>>>> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> tor-relays mailing list >>>> tor-rel...@lists.torproject.org >>>> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> tor-relays mailing list >>> tor-rel...@lists.torproject.org >>> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> tor-relays mailing list >> tor-rel...@lists.torproject.org >> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays >> > _______________________________________________ > tor-relays mailing list > tor-rel...@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays > -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
