Jorge Uriarte wrote:
Scott Eade wrote:
There has in fact been some recent progress with Scarab over at
Tigris - e.g. on their instance you can look at issues without
logging in. The trouble is that to get the ASF instance upgraded
will require more effort from those involved than can be justified.
If there was some momentum behind Scarab things would be quite
different, but unfortunately this is not the case.
Hi Scott,
sad you feel there is no momentum :-(
I had noted the more recent activity over at Tigris - what I really
meant is that momentum for the adoption of Scarab at the ASF has dwindled.
Lots of Turbine/Torque users/devs are involved somehow in Scarab
(Youngho, Fabio, Eric, comes to mind)
I appreciate this.
As I've already sent to Turbine's list, Scarab has indeed gained some
speed lately, but this should by no means be the reason behind Turbine
moving away.
Apache was using a very old version of Scarab, and I'm not sure about
the problems it caused. Late as it can be, maybe we should have
marketed ourselves months ago (I really thought about offering help
for upgrading but... late again...)
I'm sad to say that it looks like the Scarab team missed a really good
opportunity to promote themselves. If efforts had been made to keep the
ASF instance up to date (and up and running) then other projects may
have adopted it rather than JIRA. Clearly this would have been a Good
Thing, not only for Scarab but also for Torque and Turbine.
Unfortunately if Torque, with or without Turbine, elected to stick with
even an upgraded release of Scarab now, we would be forcing our
developers to maintain an account and learn about an additional issue
tracking system when because of involvement in other ASF projects they
are already have to do so for JIRA and possibly bugzilla.
For the benefit of Torque and Turbine I would have liked to have seen
Scarab flourish at the ASF, but alas it seems that the issue tracking
boat set sail some time ago when we were all distracted by other things.
As I told before; feel free to ask if you wanted help in the migration.
Since it seems from Henning's message that the ASF Scarab is pretty much
down permanently we may indeed be in need of some assistance. I assume
we will be able to extract at least some of the Scarab issue data
directly using SQL for import into JIRA.
Thanks you Jorge for your comments and your most gracious offer of
assistance.
Regards,
Scott
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