On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Adrian Buehlmann <adr...@cadifra.com> wrote:
> (cc-ing thg-dev, hoping this is ok. It might be useful for thg
> development and others as well)
>
> On 17.02.2010 15:00, Yuki KODAMA wrote:
>> Hi Adrian,
>>
>> I was asked by my friend (TortoiseBZR developer) about
>> a new *rebootless* THG installer.  In general, an application which
>> uses Windows shell extension has to reboot after installing/upgrading it.

It's nice to hear you're in contact with a TortoiseBZR developer.  I
wish one of them would hang out here so we could potentially
collaborate more.  We owe them a lot for the initial annotate and log
graph code, and various other bits.

>> However, Steve's annouce says that THG's new installer can upgrade/
>> downgrade/package-change without reboot.  I don't know details about
>> THG's WIX installer, so I couldn't answer to his question then.
>>
>> Does the *rebootless* feature come from WIX toolset/framework?
>> Or are there a kind of technics for it?
>
> As I understand it, it's not related to WiX.
>
> It is a feature of Windows Installer.
>
> WiX is "just" a toolset to generate Windows installer database files (*.msi).
>
> "The Windows Installer (previously known as Microsoft Installer) is an
> engine for the installation, maintenance, and removal of software on
> modern Microsoft Windows systems." [1]
>
> Windows installer is a part of Windows. It maintains a database of what
> components are installed and runs as a service (msiserver). It also has a
> client part that talks to the server when the user starts an installation.
>
> When a package is installed, Windows Installer does several actions.
> One such action is InstallValidate [2].
>
> In this action, Windows installer detects which running process has what
> exe or dll in use, that needs to be exchanged (upgrade/downgrade install).
>
> The user interface then offers the user to (A) shutdown the respective
> processes and restart them (in case of explorer, restart works). But the
> user may also choose not to shutdown the affected programs, but (B) instead
> schedule the exchange of the files for a reboot. Option (A) is preselected.
>
> I've uploaded a screenshot here:
> http://bitbucket.org/abuehl/thg-abuehl/downloads/ValidatingInstall-Windows7-shot1.PNG
>
> For the first install (no previously installed thg shell extension), the
> user needs to logout/login or restart explorer [3] himself for the shell
> extension dll to initialize the overlay icon handlers. It seems the context
> menu handlers get initialized on first context menu opening. So for the
> context menu, it works even without logout/login for the first install case.
>
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Installer
> [2] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa369546(VS.85).aspx
> [3] 
> http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/how-to-restart-explorer-exe-process-properly-in-windows-xp-and-vista


Very recent thread on the tsvn list:

http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/ds/viewMessage.do?dsForumId=757&dsMessageId=2447781

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