On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 05:20:50AM -0500, Mel Chua wrote:
>>>> 1) To become a POSSE instructor, you must first attend a POSSE yourself.
>>>>
>>>> 2) Then you co-teach a POSSE with a current instructor.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I can understand requirement 2.  I think co-teaching with somebody who
>>> has already taught a POSSE is important to gain an understanding of the
>>> target feel for the class.  The first requirement, however, seems to be
>>> unnecessarily restrictive---there are some faculty who already
>>> understand open source, know how to use a wiki, etc.
>
> First of all, thanks for bringing up the question, Matt - and also to  
> Titus for chiming in. As I said in my email to you earlier, these are  
> all first-round thoughts and could definitely use pushback and shaping,  
> which is in large part why I threw it out to this list. ;)
>
> The intent behind requirement #1 was twofold:
>
> (1) To make sure instructors see the process of improvising the POSSE  
> curriculum before doing it themselves - this remains my primary concern,  
> but maybe there are ways to address it.
>
> The thing is, the POSSE curriculum is in some ways like a Barcamp  
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BarCamp) - it's highly variable and  
> responsive to what's happening in the community at the moment, who's  
> online, who's there, what people are interested in... and it's hard to  
> describe to someone who hasn't been to one before. If you didn't know  
> what a Barcamp was and showed up on the first day expected to "run" it,  
> well... I'd be nervous. But. Again, maybe addressable.
>
> (2) To make sure instructors would have both tool-using skills and FOSS  
> community exposure/involvement - this doesn't necessarily correlate with  
> the first requirement, as Matt and Titus both pointed out. Someone like  
> Titus, with many years in FOSS and teaching, would have a greater depth  
> of knowledge and community connections than someone who's just finished  
> attending POSSE as their first exposure to FOSS contribution - it  
> doesn't make sense for him to *not* be able to co-instruct. And  
> actually, we've already broken this "rule" before setting it, since  
> Harish didn't attend a POSSE before teaching it, though he did watch us  
> plan and execute the first one, and planned the Singapore one with us  
> from the very start.
>
> Maybe that's the solution: To co-teach, if you haven't been to a POSSE  
> before, you must be a co-organizer of the POSSE you are co-teaching at,  
> from proposal all the way to execution. That way, you will build a  
> mental picture over time of what the week might look like.
>
> How's this:
>
> 0) POSSEs are always taught by at least 2 instructors.
> 1) To become a POSSE instructor, you co-teach a POSSE with a current  
> instructor. (In this case, you count as the second instructor.)
> 2) In order to co-teach, you must either be a POSSE alumni, OR make the  
> case to your co-instructor that you have equivalent (or better)  
> background/skills in FOSS tools/communities, AND be the primary  
> organizer of the POSSE you co-teach at.
>
> Also: how would folks feel about requiring that at least one of the  
> instructors at a POSSE teach - or have taught - at the college level? I  
> think there's a lot of value in the professors-teaching-professors  
> model, but could be adding more structure than we actually need.

+1 strong suggestion.
-1 requirement.

But that's a general principle of mine...

The Barcamp comparison raises a red flag for illogic: "every one is different,
so how will you know how to run one if you don't attend one that we run?"  ;)

I think you could just say that running a POSSE involves deep interplay between
teaching, knowledge of open source, and technology -- and you don't want to run
one unless you have a lot of experience in all three.  One very good way to get
that experience is to participate in one!

cheers,
--titus
-- 
C. Titus Brown, c...@msu.edu
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