Teaching Free Libre and Open Source Software? (I concur - I use GNU/Linux...; however, I thought she was snippity. I don't think RMS would have been as rude. I suspect he would have said something simple such as: "I will not come to your event if it uses the wrong word - Open Source - when in reality you are talking about free software.")
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Jan Wildeboer <[email protected]> wrote: > A long time ago, some enthusiasts in Belgium planned a cool meeting for > Open Source developers and called it OSDEM - Open Source Developers > European Meeting. It was a cool and nice event. > > The next year they thought "hey, let's invite Richard Stallman!" and sent > him an email. > > He replied in his usual way. "I will not come to your event if it uses the > wrong word - Open Source - when in reality you are talking about free > software." > > The boys (at that time it really were only boys) sat together over a few > beer and decided in true WTF way to add the Free to their name. > > Guess what, FOSDEM is a huge success since some +10 years. > > What I am trying to say is that even when Open Source is somehow the > logical thing, in reality TOS is far closer to the ideals and philosophy of > Free Software. Hence I understand and support the FSF people in their > request to add the Freedom thingy. > > BTW - it is just a rumour that Stallman refers to FOSDEM as GNU/FOSDEM ;-) > > Jan > > -- > Jan H Wildeboer | > EMEA Open Source Affairs | Office: +49 (0)89 205071-207 > Red Hat GmbH | Mobile: +49 (0)174 33 23 249 > Technopark II, Haus C | Fax: +49 (0)89 205071-111 > Werner-von-Siemens-Ring 11 -15 | > 85630 Grasbrunn | > _____________________________________________________________________ > > Reg. Adresse: Red Hat GmbH, > Technopark II, Haus C, Werner-von-Siemens-Ring 11 -15 > 85630 Grasbrunn, Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Muenchen HRB 153243 > Geschaeftsfuehrer: Mark Hegarty, Charlie Peters, Michael Cunningham, > Charles Cachera > > > Am 22.03.2012 um 22:58 schrieb Mel Chua <[email protected]>: > > > Passing on the email I got back from the GNU Education Project, which > made me sigh a bit, but... ok, I understand that GNU takes the terminology > thing very seriously (even if I explained that TOS does include Free/Libre > software in the first sentence of my email, which is included below for > context since it's been a while). > > > > I' not sure that this actually tells us anything more about what they're > doing or how we might be able to join forces, so I'm putting this > conversation down for now because I've got a few classes to pass at the > moment, but wanted to do so publicly in case someone else wants to pick up > the thread. > > > > ---------------------- > > > > Hi Mel, > > > > Thanks for your note and sorry for the delay. I have no doubts we have > > a lot of things in common, except we can't help it to feel excluded in > > a name like TOS. Let me know when your group will decide it's worth > > looking back to the old days when the US was proud and not afraid to > > talk about freedom. > > > > We don't have a public mailing list but just a small list we use to > > coordinate the various tasks, the results of which can be seen in > > gnu.org/education. > > > > > > Best! > > > > -- > > Dora Scilipoti > > GNU Education Team > > www.gnu.org/education > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: [EXT] Greetings to the GNU Education Project from the TOS > community! > > Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 02:48:46 +0100 > > From: GNU Education Team <[email protected]> > > Organization: www.gnu.org > > To: Mel Chua <[email protected]> > > CC: Education Discuss List <[email protected]> > > > > > > Hello, Dora -- > > > > My name is Mel Chua, and I'm one of the members of the Teaching Open > > Source community. Although the group name says "open source," we explain > > in the introduction that it's meant to encompass free/libre/open-source > > software and content in all its forms, it's mostly that "TFLOSSAC" is a > > little awkward to pronounce. > > > > We're a little community of practice primarily composed of college-level > > faculty and others interested in getting students *contributing* to Free > > Software projects and communities as part of their coursework -- moving > > beyond simply using Free Software to actually making it, adding to it, > > giving back, and becoming active participants in the Free Software > movement. > > > > We come from all over the world, from all sorts of disciplines (from > > journalism to electrical engineering), and from all different sorts of > > schools (from small liberal arts colleges to huge public universities), > > and mostly keep in touch via a mailing list but occasionally meet up at > > academic conferences. > > > > One of the things we've done for a while is teach a summer workshop for > > faculty (http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE) who are > > interested in designing their courses to include FOSS contribution as a > > component -- instead of working through a "pretend" textbook problem, why > > not have students contribute directly to a living, breathing project? > > > > I'm writing independently (we don't have an elected leadership or > > anything, but I told the list I'd take the initiative to send this > > email) and therefore can only speak for myself, but I would love to hear > > more about your plans for the GNU Education project. I think the other > > folks at TOS would also be curious. And it may be that we have some > > common goals and projects that it might make sense to partner up on -- > > for instance, perhaps teaching those faculty workshops together. > > > > Our mailing list is at > > http://lists.teachingopensource.org/mailman/listinfo/tos, which is the > > best place to follow the conversation and ask questions if you'd like to > > earn more about us. What's the best way for us to follow along with > > what you're doing? > > > > Best, > > --Mel > > > > _______________________________________________ > > tos mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.teachingopensource.org/mailman/listinfo/tos > _______________________________________________ > tos mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.teachingopensource.org/mailman/listinfo/tos >
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