@dino99 how was "what most users prefer" prefer determined? Was there a poll?
Systemd already has configuration options to limit the growth the the journal. As documented in `man journald.conf`, the defaults are already set to prevent filling up a disk. If there were a poll, I can certainly imagine people voting for having valuable logging kept for review. That has been the policy for syslog for years. I don't see why someone would want to suddenly start throwing away valuable logs at reboot just because the logging backend is now journald instead of syslog. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to systemd in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1618188 Title: systemd journal should be persistent by default: /var/log/journal should be created; remove rsyslog from default installs Status in systemd package in Ubuntu: Triaged Status in ubuntu-meta package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: After upgrading 14.04 -> 16.04, key services are now running on systemd and using the systemd journal for logging. In 14.04, key system logs like /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog were persistent, but after the upgrade to 16.04 there has a been a regression of sorts: Logs sent to systemd's journald are now being thrown away during reboots. This behavior is controlled by the `Storage=` option in `/etc/systemd/journald.conf`. The default setting is `Storage=auto` which will persist logs in `/var/log/journal/`, *only if the directory already exists*. But the directory was not created as part of the 14.04 -> 16.04 upgrade, so logging was being lost for a while before I realized what was happening. This issue could be solved by either creating /var/log/journal or changing the default Storage behavior to `Storage=persistent`, which would create the directory if need be. ## Related reference * `systemd` currently compounds the issue by having ["journal --disk-usage" report memory usage as disk usage](https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/4059), giving the impression that the disk is being used for logging when it isn't. * [User wonders where to find logs from previous boots, unaware that the logs were thrown away](http://askubuntu.com/questions/765315/how-to-find-previous-boot-log-after-ubuntu-16-04-restarts) ## Recommended fix Restoring persistent logging as the default is recommended. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1618188/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
