On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 11:02:35PM -0000, GeekSmith wrote: > Is the use of resolvconf and ifupdown without resolved an unsupported > configuration in 17.10?
resolvconf is in universe as of 17.10. In effect, yes, this is unsupported. > Is resolved the only supported DNS configuration management system in > Ubuntu 17.10? Yes. > There are many users who value the control and flexibility of > pre-resolved systems and do not want a local caching nameserver. Flexibility for flexibility's sake is not a goal of Ubuntu. resolved is not configured as a caching nameserver; it is a stub resolver, configured for the purpose of ensuring a stable DNS endpoint. > The inadequacy is that systemd breaks resolvconf. I'm sorry, but this is a circular argument which does not explain why you are trying to use resolvconf in the first place. > There are too many systems, mainly servers, that cannot or should not > run a nameserver, not even a local one. resolved is not ready to service > these systems. What determines that a server "cannot or should not" run a local resolver? Enabling a local resolver on servers in addition to desktops (where we have already enabled dnsmasq for years) has been a common request. If there are scenarios where it is not appropriate to run resolved, then we should absolutely evaluate those and determine how they should be supported in Ubuntu. However, they must be evaluated on their own merits, which means that the technical details must be presented for consideration. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to systemd in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1745463 Title: Disabling systemd-resolved breaks dhclient resolvconf integration Status in resolvconf package in Ubuntu: New Status in systemd package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: To reproduce, mask resolved: sudo systemctl mask systemd-resolved.service ...then disable network-manager for ifupdown interfaces: $cat /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf [main] plugins=ifupdown,keyfile dns=default rc-manager=resolvconf [ifupdown] managed=false [device] wifi.scan-rand-mac-address=no ...and reboot. You'll note that resolvconf integration with dhclient is now broken. Interfaces listed in /etc/network/interfaces or /etc/network/interfaces.d/* will not provide DNS configuration in /etc/resolv.conf and /run/resolvconf/interfaces/. This is because /etc/dhcp/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/resolvconf defines "make_resolv_conf()" as a valid function for the BOUND case, but /etc/dhcp/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/resolved undefines it (who's nasty now, eh?) even though resolved is masked. The file existence check in the beginning of /etc/dhcp/dhclient-enter- hooks.d/resolved should be more thorough, i.e. it should ensure that resolved is enabled, rather than simply look for the existence of /lib/systemd/systemd-resolved. This works for me: -if [ -x /lib/systemd/systemd-resolved ] ; then +if [ -x /lib/systemd/systemd-resolved ] && systemctl -q is-enabled systemd-resolved ; then Arguably, /etc/dhcp/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/resolvconf should implement a similar check, looking for /run/resolvconf/enable-updates as a condition for meddling with DNS settings. If desired, I'll file a separate bug for that package. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/resolvconf/+bug/1745463/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp