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There are probably other conditions at play (maybe in the cases the former file is loaded first, and in other cases this is the latter). For instance, using ArchLinux / Manjaro, as of today, triggers about 10 to 15 seconds delay at the startup of KDE, unless I remove the file /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio.desktop. It doens't occur, here, with Mint 14 KDE / Kubuntu 12.10. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-01-28T10:20:58+00:00 Tanu Kaskinen wrote: pulseaudio.desktop runs start-pulseaudio-x11 and pulseaudio-kde.desktop runs start-pulseaudio-kde. start-pulseaudio-x11 starts pulseaudio if it's not already running and loads module-x11-publish, module-x11-cork-request and module-x11-xsmp. start-pulseaudio-kde starts pulseaudio if it's not already running and loads module-device-manager. start-pulseaudio-x11 shouldn't be omitted on KDE as requested on this bug, because then module-x11-publish, module-x11-cork-request and module-x11-xsmp wouldn't get loaded, even though they are as relevant on KDE as on any other desktop environment. The real bug is the delay that start-pulseaudio-x11 apparently causes on some systems. I don't see any reason why that should happen, so I hope someone will investigate this (I'm not volunteering). Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-02-20T08:13:32+00:00 Anish-7 wrote: Unsure about start-pulseaudio-x11, but confirming that adding "NotShowIn=KDE;" to the end of the pulseaudio.desktop fixed the delay in Archlinux + KDE 4.10 for me on multiple systems. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-04-27T04:10:11+00:00 Arun Raghavan wrote: Could someone set "log-level = debug" and "log-time = yes" in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf, reproduce this error, and post the logs here please? Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/4 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-05-04T08:37:45+00:00 Mccope wrote: Created attachment 78833 Debug log as requested in comment above Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/5 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-05-04T08:43:38+00:00 Mccope wrote: The debug log above was generated on my Debian Sid system with the pulseaudio package version 2.0-6.1. In case it is useful to you, below is the reportbug information on related packages: Package: pulseaudio Version: 2.0-6.1 -- System Information: Debian Release: 7.0 APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'stable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Foreign Architectures: i386 Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Versions of packages pulseaudio depends on: ii adduser 3.113+nmu3 ii consolekit 0.4.5-3.1 ii libasound2 1.0.25-4 ii libasound2-plugins 1.0.25-2 ii libc6 2.13-38 ii libcap2 1:2.22-1.2 ii libdbus-1-3 1.6.8-1 ii libfftw3-3 3.3.2-3.1 ii libgcc1 1:4.7.2-5 ii libice6 2:1.0.8-2 ii libltdl7 2.4.2-1.2 ii liborc-0.4-0 1:0.4.16-2 ii libpulse0 2.0-6.1 ii libsamplerate0 0.1.8-5 ii libsm6 2:1.2.1-2 ii libsndfile1 1.0.25-5 ii libspeexdsp1 1.2~rc1-7 ii libstdc++6 4.7.2-5 ii libsystemd-daemon0 44-11 ii libsystemd-login0 44-11 ii libtdb1 1.2.10-2 ii libudev0 175-7.2 ii libwebrtc-audio-processing-0 0.1-2 ii libx11-6 2:1.5.0-1 ii libx11-xcb1 2:1.5.0-1 ii libxcb1 1.8.1-2 ii libxtst6 2:1.2.1-1 ii lsb-base 4.1+Debian9 ii udev 175-7.2 Versions of packages pulseaudio recommends: ii gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio 0.10.31-3+nmu1 ii pulseaudio-module-x11 2.0-6.1 ii rtkit 0.10-2 Versions of packages pulseaudio suggests: pn paman <none> pn paprefs <none> pn pavucontrol <none> pn pavumeter <none> ii pulseaudio-utils 2.0-6.1 -- no debconf information Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/6 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-05-06T10:17:50+00:00 Tanu Kaskinen wrote: module-x11-xsmp seems to take a lot of time to connect to the session manager. The root cause might be a bug in the KDE session manager, but we should be able to improve things in PulseAudio too. It would be better not to block in pa__init() of module-x11-xsmp. I'm not sure if this is possible, though, if the API of libSM is designed to be synchronous... Perhaps we could comment out module-x11-xsmp from start-pulseaudio-x11, and even deprecate the whole module? The purpose of the module is to keep pulseaudio alive for the duration of an X11 session, but don't module-systemd-login and module-console-kit do that well enough anyway? Is module-x11-xsmp perhaps needed in Solaris or something like that? Matthew, could you verify that commenting out module-x11-xsmp from start-pulseaudio-x11 fixes the issue for you? Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/7 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-05-06T14:17:29+00:00 Mccope wrote: Created attachment 78930 Debug log for updated start-pulseaudio-x11 Tanu, I updated /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 as follows, please can you confirm this is what you meant :-) $ diff -su /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11.orig /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 --- /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11.orig 2013-05-06 12:35:37.940319792 +0100 +++ /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 2013-05-06 12:36:58.360891563 +0100 @@ -27,6 +27,7 @@ /usr/bin/pactl load-module module-x11-cork-request "display=$DISPLAY" > /dev/null if [ x"$SESSION_MANAGER" != x ] ; then - /usr/bin/pactl load-module module-x11-xsmp "display=$DISPLAY session_manager=$SESSION_MANAGER" > /dev/null +# /usr/bin/pactl load-module module-x11-xsmp "display=$DISPLAY session_manager=$SESSION_MANAGER" > /dev/null + /usr/bin/pactl "display=$DISPLAY session_manager=$SESSION_MANAGER" > /dev/null fi fi The delay is still present with this modified version of start- pulseaudio-x11. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/8 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-05-06T14:47:03+00:00 Tanu Kaskinen wrote: I meant that just comment out the line that mentions module-x11-xsmp. The line that you added doesn't do anything useful (but the change that you did was enough to prove that module-x11-xsmp is not the one to blame, so don't worry). Do you edit these logs before you send them? According to the logs, your machine-id is ${my_machine-id} and only four modules are loaded during startup: module-device-restore, module-stream-restore, module-card- restore and module-augment-properties. There's no sign of any ALSA modules getting loaded, despite there being log messages from an ALSA sink. Also, it looks like the log level is "info", not "debug" as instructed. In the new log the delay happens at some point after module-x11-cork- request has been loaded and before kmix creating a probe connection. Please enable full debug logging. You could also try adding module-x11-xsmp back to start-pulseaudio-x11 and commenting out module-x11-cork-request and/or module-x11-publish instead. The idea would be to find out if one of the modules loaded by start-pulseaudio-x11 causes the delay. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/9 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-05-06T16:12:44+00:00 Mccope wrote: (In reply to comment #9) > Do you edit these logs before you send them? According to the logs, your > machine-id is ${my_machine-id} and only four modules are loaded during > startup: module-device-restore, module-stream-restore, module-card-restore > and module-augment-properties. There's no sign of any ALSA modules getting > loaded, despite there being log messages from an ALSA sink. Also, it looks > like the log level is "info", not "debug" as instructed. Yes, I wasn't sure if machine-id value is sensitive from a security POV, so I have edited it out - if it isn't then I won't bother in future :-) I logged in and out a few times to check if there was still the delay and so the messages repeated a few times - I tried to cut it down to what looked like only one login event but I might have pruned a bit too much! The log level is definitely 'debug'. I'm getting the log by grepping /var/log/messages for pulseaudio. Looking at the log file now there are lines like: May 6 16:42:04 debian pulseaudio[7281]: (6648.654| 0.000) [alsa-sink] alsa-sink.c: Device suspended... So I must have messed up the debug log; I'll give it another go. > You could also try adding module-x11-xsmp back to start-pulseaudio-x11 and > commenting out module-x11-cork-request and/or module-x11-publish instead. > The idea would be to find out if one of the modules loaded by > start-pulseaudio-x11 causes the delay. Ok, will do. Thanks for the feedback. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/10 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-05-07T11:29:25+00:00 David Henningsson wrote: (In reply to comment #9) > Do you edit these logs before you send them? According to the logs, your > machine-id is ${my_machine-id} and only four modules are loaded during > startup: module-device-restore, module-stream-restore, module-card-restore > and module-augment-properties. There's no sign of any ALSA modules getting > loaded, despite there being log messages from an ALSA sink. Also, it looks > like the log level is "info", not "debug" as instructed. As a side note, it might be worth checking that syslog does not apply rate limiting of log messages, which I have found to be a problem sometimes (and also, that --log-target=file:/tmp/pulse.log can be a good workaround). Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/11 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-05-07T11:48:03+00:00 Mccope wrote: (In reply to comment #11) > As a side note, it might be worth checking that syslog does not apply rate > limiting of log messages, which I have found to be a problem sometimes (and > also, that --log-target=file:/tmp/pulse.log can be a good workaround). Yep that was a problem - after Tanu commented that it looked like bits were missing I looked through /var/log/messages and found lines about rate limiting that my grep command had hidden. I didn't get time to reconfigure rsyslogd yesterday, but will try to get the debug output tonight. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/12 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-05-07T11:59:24+00:00 Tanu Kaskinen wrote: (In reply to comment #10) > Yes, I wasn't sure if machine-id value is sensitive from a security POV, so > I have edited it out - if it isn't then I won't bother in future :-) It's not security sensitive to my knowledge. It's just a random number identifying your machine, and any user on your machine is able to read it. > I logged in and out a few times to check if there was still the delay and so > the messages repeated a few times - I tried to cut it down to what looked > like only one login event but I might have pruned a bit too much! > > The log level is definitely 'debug'. I'm getting the log by grepping > /var/log/messages for pulseaudio. The effective level is definitely 'info', so this sounds like a bug. I haven't heard such problems before, though, and I'm not able to reproduce it (setting "log-level = info" in daemon.conf) with the current code. You can override the verbosity, if you edit the command line for starting pulseaudio in start-pulseaudio-x11 and start-pulseaudio-kde: adding "-vvvv" to the command line should provide sufficient verbosity. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/13 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-05-07T20:26:05+00:00 Mccope wrote: Created attachment 79002 Debug log for 'normal' case Updated log for the existing setup. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/14 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-05-07T20:29:29+00:00 Mccope wrote: Created attachment 79003 Debug log for variations on the normal case Log containing variations of the normal case by commenting out each line out in turn: 1. noxmsp 2. nopublish 3. nocork Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/15 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-05-08T14:25:26+00:00 Tanu Kaskinen wrote: (In reply to comment #15) > Created attachment 79003 [details] > Debug log for variations on the normal case > > Log containing variations of the normal case by commenting out each line out > in turn: > 1. noxmsp > 2. nopublish > 3. nocork Hmm, now there seems to be no delay in the noxsmp case, while all other cases have the delay during (or possibly before) loading module-x11-xsmp. This would indicate that the delay does happen in module-x11-xsmp, but then there's attachment 78930 that shows a delay elsewhere... The log level was still 'info'. Did you add "-vvvv" to the pulseaudio command lines in start-pulseaudio-x11 and start-pulseaudio-kde? Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/16 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-05-08T20:08:44+00:00 Mccope wrote: Created attachment 79033 Debug log for normal setup and all variations > The log level was still 'info'. Did you add "-vvvv" to the pulseaudio > command lines in start-pulseaudio-x11 and start-pulseaudio-kde? The previous logs were using -vvvvv (5x v), attached is a log using -vvvv (4x v); the log doesn't look any more or less verbose than the previous one though. Here's the relevant lines of the config files: matt@debian:~$ grep log /etc/pulse/daemon.conf ; log-target = auto ; log-level = notice ; log-meta = no ; log-time = no ; log-backtrace = 0 log-level = debug log-time = yes matt@debian:~$ grep pulseaudio /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-kde /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start -vvvv "$@" matt@debian:~$ grep pulseaudio /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start -vvvv "$@" (The noxmsp, nocork & nopublish variants are based on the generic start- pulseaudio-x11) Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/17 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-05-09T07:56:36+00:00 Tanu Kaskinen wrote: (In reply to comment #17) > Created attachment 79033 [details] > Debug log for normal setup and all variations > > > The log level was still 'info'. Did you add "-vvvv" to the pulseaudio > > command lines in start-pulseaudio-x11 and start-pulseaudio-kde? > > The previous logs were using -vvvvv (5x v), attached is a log using -vvvv > (4x v); the log doesn't look any more or less verbose than the previous one > though. Hmm, syslog might filter out messages with too low priority (LOG_DEBUG). > Here's the relevant lines of the config files: > > matt@debian:~$ grep log /etc/pulse/daemon.conf > ; log-target = auto > ; log-level = notice > ; log-meta = no > ; log-time = no > ; log-backtrace = 0 > log-level = debug > log-time = yes > matt@debian:~$ grep pulseaudio /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-kde > /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start -vvvv "$@" > matt@debian:~$ grep pulseaudio /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 > /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start -vvvv "$@" Looks good. > (The noxmsp, nocork & nopublish variants are based on the generic > start-pulseaudio-x11) Now the noxsmp case has the delay again. What if you comment out all of those modules from start-pulseaudio-x11? What if you remove start-pulseaudio-x11 altogether or put NowtShowIn=KDE to pulseaudio.desktop as originally suggested? I'm suspecting that the delay might happen even without start- pulseaudio-x11. When module-x11-xsmp is loaded, the delay consistently happens during the execution of start-pulseaudio-x11, but in the noxsmp case the delay seems to happen after start-pulseaudio-x11 has finished its job. Hmm, actually the "delay" that I'm seeing in the noxsmp case could be explained just by there being no client activity. There aren't any ongoing processes inside pulseaudio that should be generating log messages during the quiet period. Thus, if the KDE startup is still being delayed in the noxsmp case, it doesn't look like a pulseaudio problem (although it's not completely impossible either). Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/18 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-05-13T05:14:32+00:00 Arun Raghavan wrote: Anyone know of an easy way to reproduce this from scratch? Like say get <iso> of <distro>, install, and "omg delayed startup!". At this point, one of us being able to reproduce this in a VM might speed up resolution of this. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/19 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-05-13T06:31:43+00:00 Anish-7 wrote: (In reply to comment #19) > Anyone know of an easy way to reproduce this from scratch? Like say get > <iso> of <distro>, install, and "omg delayed startup!". > > At this point, one of us being able to reproduce this in a VM might speed up > resolution of this. Issue exists by default on ArchLinux, get the x86-64 iso but arch doesn't come with KDE preinstalled. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-05-14T07:21:21+00:00 Arun Raghavan wrote: Okay, so I've pinned this down now. The problem is in module-zeroconf- publish. It calls avahi_client_new(), which tries to ping the Avahi server via D-Bus and then blocks until it gets a reply. This reply might only come after a D-Bus timeout which IIRC is 20s. The root cause is that Avahi basically only makes blocking D-Bus calls. I'm trying to see if we can move over all these sorts of calls in module-zeroconf-publish to a separate thread. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/21 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-05-14T07:33:19+00:00 Tanu Kaskinen wrote: It's of course good to fix problems in module-zeroconf-publish too, but that module doesn't seem to be related to the original problem. start- pulseaudio-x11 doesn't have anything to do with module-zeroconf-publish, and module-zeroconf-publish doesn't seem to be loaded at all in the logs that have been attached. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/22 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-05-21T18:26:54+00:00 Arun Raghavan wrote: I've got a VM running Arch Linux with kdebase, kmultimedia-kmix and pulseaudio, and I go from hitting enter on the kdm login screen to start of the login sound is ~9-10s seconds. Doesn't seem to match the reported lag. Tanu pointed out that the logs posted didn't mention module-zeroconf- publish. Was this edited out of the logs by any chance? An easy way for people seeing this problem to verify the fix is to add User=root to /usr/share/dbus-1/system- services/org.freedesktop.Avahi.service Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/23 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-05-23T02:53:33+00:00 Arun Raghavan wrote: Ping? This is the last blocker for 4.0. I'd really like to close this before the release, but I'd rather not hold it up much longer. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/24 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-05-23T09:06:40+00:00 Mahen-free wrote: I'm not using Arch at the moment (Kubuntu) but I can re-install it to check your fix. I'll report back in a day or two, I hope it will be OK for you. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-05-23T09:08:55+00:00 Arun Raghavan wrote: (In reply to comment #25) > I'm not using Arch at the moment (Kubuntu) but I can re-install it to check > your fix. I'll report back in a day or two, I hope it will be OK for you. That would be great. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/26 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-05-23T23:33:33+00:00 Mahen-free wrote: Hmm, I'm sorry but I couldn't reproduce the issue on my setup (under a fresh Manjaro Linux which is Arch based ; I used to have this problem under both distros -- I installed this one because this is MUCH faster to install ;-). It might be some kind of concurrency issue that occured before when I had a SSD drive, which is not the case anymore. Really sorry. Does anyone still encounter the problem nowadays ? Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/27 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-05-24T00:20:14+00:00 Arun Raghavan wrote: Well, it's good to know that it's working out of the box. Thanks for testing this! Let's see if anyone else is still facing the problem and whether the avahi fixes help them. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/28 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-10-24T20:19:37+00:00 Rob Hasselbaum wrote: I am running Arch and getting the slow startup time. Setting User=root in "/usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.freedesktop.Avahi.service" did NOT fix the problem for me, unfortunately. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/29 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-10-31T01:36:14+00:00 Rob Hasselbaum wrote: Upgrade to PulseAudio just pushed to Arch repo this week (version 4.0-6) completely fixed the problem for me. So maybe it was downstream and this can be marked resolved now. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/30 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2013-10-31T04:51:01+00:00 Arun Raghavan wrote: Arch's current package is a git snapshot, so that sounds about right. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/comments/31 ** Changed in: pulseaudio Status: Unknown => Fix Released ** Changed in: pulseaudio Importance: Unknown => Medium -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1296420 Title: Pulseaudio makes kde stall for a few seconds during startup Status in PulseAudio sound server: Fix Released Status in “pulseaudio” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Quote from this post. : http://linuxadvantage.blogspot.dk/2013/01/kde-rather-slow-to-start-pulseaudio.html On many distributions delivering KDE, since version 4.2, I have often found incomprehensibles slowness between login step and the time the desktop is fully loaded and usable. Indeed, we can see unfold normally the KDE's "splashscreen" and the desktop appears but in the systray, all the icons are not loaded and it is not possible to run a program until the startup sound is heard. This is long seconds (10 or 15 for me) where nothing happens (no visible disk access). After answering on this thread [1] , I opened a bug in KDE and it appears that the culprit is PulseAudio. Indeed, it seems that PulseAudio package for KDE brings 2 startup files instead of one: "pulseaudio.desktop" and "pulseaudio- kde.desktop" This often generates a delay to load the desktop caused by the program that is trying to start twice. Note that this is not systematic, I guess in some cases, the correct file is launched before the bad and in this case, there isn't any delays. The solution: Just simply delete the unwanted file to retreive a fast loading time. This is valid for all distributions. - Open a console as root - Go to the directory /etc/xdg/autostart - Check that you have two files "pulseaudio.desktop" and "pulseaudio-kde.desktop" in this directory. - Delete the file "pulseaudio.desktop" (or rename it to "pulseaudio.desktop.disable" if you prefer to keep it) - Reboot normally there shouldn't be more delay now caused by PulseAudio to logon [1] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=312560 ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 14.04 Package: pulseaudio 1:4.0-0ubuntu10 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.13.0-19.39-lowlatency 3.13.6 Uname: Linux 3.13.0-19-lowlatency i686 ApportVersion: 2.13.3-0ubuntu1 Architecture: i386 AudioDevicesInUse: USER PID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC1: sgh 2336 F.... pulseaudio sgh 2796 F.... pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: sgh 2336 F.... pulseaudio sgh 2796 F.... pulseaudio CurrentDesktop: KDE Date: Sun Mar 23 22:22:58 2014 InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-12-24 (89 days ago) InstallationMedia: Kubuntu 14.04 LTS "Trusty Tahr" - Alpha i386 (20131224) SourcePackage: pulseaudio UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) dmi.bios.date: 07/02/2012 dmi.bios.vendor: LENOVO dmi.bios.version: G7ET31WW (1.13 ) dmi.board.asset.tag: Not Available dmi.board.name: 2356GCG dmi.board.vendor: LENOVO dmi.board.version: Not Defined dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Information dmi.chassis.type: 10 dmi.chassis.vendor: LENOVO dmi.chassis.version: Not Available dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnLENOVO:bvrG7ET31WW(1.13):bd07/02/2012:svnLENOVO:pn2356GCG:pvrThinkPadT430s:rvnLENOVO:rn2356GCG:rvrNotDefined:cvnLENOVO:ct10:cvrNotAvailable: dmi.product.name: 2356GCG dmi.product.version: ThinkPad T430s dmi.sys.vendor: LENOVO To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pulseaudio/+bug/1296420/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp