Hi,

On Jun 27, 9:12 pm, osimons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First, I have to agree with the sentiment that Trac needs plugins and
> that plugins is pretty much a requirement for any non-trivial test
> setup. However, as Noah says, exactly what plugins one needs will
> depend, and it is exceedingly difficult to make something that suits
> all - especially handled and coordinated by the Trac developers that
> also have a ton of other current and future fixes and enhancements to
> focus on.
>
> What I would like to see would be that people with similar needs came
> together to maintain 'community' versions of their Trac setup with a
> set of plugins they would need for their use. Using svn:externals it
> could pull in Trac source and plugins and other third party modules as
> it needs (pegged at certain tested revisions for instance), and the
> only additional code would be a tried & tested script to install and
> upgrade everything correctly + perhaps some minimal scaffolding to
> make it all come together; virtualenv setup, fixed folder structure,
> fcgi/wsgi scripts working out of the box and similar.


If you ship some kind of Trac package with some plugins you won't fit
everyone's needs. But I'm sure there is a set of plugins which most of
the users need (AccoutManager!). And even if some users just need two
of four shipped plugins, they would highly appreciate it, if  this
would be just a one-click installation. Again, just the installation
of the plugins isn't the big deal, but finding the correct revision of
a specific plugin for your updated trac installation really is a big
deal.

What's the magic set of plugins most users need has to be evaluated by
some metrics (no. of downloads, votes on teo etc) and discussed. And I
don't think you can decide this once for all times, but again and
again.

I agree with Scott, "community versions" won't solve this issue. More
likely you probably will miss the "break-even" number of users and
developers for all or most community versions and many of them will
die due to lack of audience.

BR,
Simon

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