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[Cross-posted to trac-dev, as this thread should be moved there
 please reply only to trac-dev]

Olemis Lang skrev 04. juni 2009 22:29:
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Eirik Schwenke
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I think we need to rethink (or document plainly on the wiki) the terms
>> "trac user" and "trac developer". "trac end user" and "trac contributor"
>> might be better labels, a contributor being anyone that submits code
>> (python, javascript, html and templates) or documentation (wiki,
>> newhelp) changes.
>>
> 
> Let me see if I get the idea :
> 
> - Contributor : a contributor being anyone that submits code
>   (python, javascript, html and templates) or documentation (wiki,  newhelp)
>   changes. (This one seems to be ok for me)
> - Trac developer : What's the difference between a Trac dev and a contributor
>   that submits code ( checkin permissions ?)

Yes, my thinking was that trac-dev would be someone with commit access.
Apparently there should be no such thing as a trac dev, only trac
commiters  ...

> - trac user" : ¿?
> - trac end user: ¿?  What's the difference

No difference, "trac user" and "trac dev" are the only "old"/legacy
terms that I've seen used before -- and my point was that those terms
weren't all that helpful for discussion.

As a side note, the term "trac dev" might be relevant as in: "trac-dev:
someone that has a working knowledge of the internals of trac".

These are all small details - I believe my original comments had
something to do with defining the workflow, and the notion that not all
contributors (eg: doc writers) are / should be trac devs.

(...)

>> I found: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TranslationRu/TracAdmin, does
>> this mean that case 4) would involve creating /TranslationJp/xx ?
>>
> 
> What about using Wiki Negotiation plugin ?

Is that plugin alive/working ? I had forgotten all about it -- I assume
you refer to: http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/TracWikiNegotiatorPlugin

The example site appears to be down -- but that doesn't mean the plugin
is dead.


There's still a question of managing all this stuff, which is somewhat
related to tagging/branching of documentation -- and possibly suggests
some changes to the wiki in future releases of trac.


An interesting project I worked with at the University of Trondheim had
some useful features for managing documentation:

 a) each article is contained in an xml-file (analogous to a wiki page)
 b) each has an author/owner
 c) the system sends out mail to each owner after x months, asking them
    to verify that the article is still relevant, and either:
    1) sign off (click "ok")
    2) update and sign off (ie: edit, sign off)
    3) delete it

This is mostly workflow related, and could probably be implemented on
top of either rest/sphinx and/or the wiki.

The system is open, and has some multilingual content:

  http://infoweb.ntnu.no/about+infoweb/help/about.html
  (unfortunately it appears development is better maintainted
   than documentation, as can be seen from the warning on top of
   the following page):
  http://infoweb.ntnu.no/about+infoweb/info/technical.html

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