Hello Anatoly,
On 4/19/2010 10:57 PM, anatoly techtonik wrote:
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Christian Boos<[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks - 0.12 looks fantastic. Side by Side editing + automatic
preview is really cool.
Bah, already quite obsolete compared to the Wiki in 0.13! (1)
Ah yes, we should perhaps release 0.12 first, hm, right...
...
First, when you quote, please quote accurately. The "Thanks" part came
from Mark Mac Mahon, not from me.
(1) -
http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev/ReleaseNotes/0.13#OutstandingWiki
I find pipelined links of WikiCreole 1.0 are ugly and hard to read.
The Trac way of linking was not even listed among alternatives
http://www.wikicreole.org/wiki/LinksReasoning It is poor planning and
Well, this is not (only) a question of aesthetics, but more an
appreciation of how the majority of users will react, facing the new
syntax: does it bring something new, is it more useful, more standard, etc.
About the specific advantages, [[the target|the label]] notation makes
it much easier to deal with wiki page names containing space, without
the need for the "..." quoting that people have trouble to get right. It
is also easier to type than the ["..."] syntax (which still doesn't
support the ["..." label] form, btw.).
Note that you can also put spaces around the |, if you find that more
readable. See e.g.
http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/WikiCreole?action=diff&version=14
I doubt this "standard" is reasonable.
Trac's own syntax was inspired by MoinMoin, and we have always tried to
follow its evolutions. They adopted a WikiCreole friendly syntax in 1.6
(2 years ago), so do we now, with 0.12. And even if you don't look at
the WikiCreole spec or discussion, you can see that this style of link
is very widespread
(http://www.wikimatrix.org/syntax.php?i=138&x=29&y=9): besides MoinMoin,
you have things like DokuWiki and MediaWiki...
Looks pretty mainstream to me.
I would not support WikiCreole
without explicit setting to avoid hurdles to maintain backwards
compatibility when http://wiki.wikicreole.org/Creole%202.0/Discussion
comes out.
Well, I would suggest not holding your breath until Creole 2.0
materializes, it's already a miracle that a not so bad 1.0 came out,
with some decent adoption (BitBucket for example). So let's do our best
to accompany this trend, when possible, i.e. when it doesn't conflict
with some other, already established, syntax.
-- Christian
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