Hi Roman,

Sorry for interfering (I am not even Trac developer), but your post touched
me quite a bit, so I decided to go forward and post my opinion on this.

>I would like to involve some of them in Trac to give them an
>opportunity to work on a real project instead of writing their own
>equation solvers or any other useless apps.

>From my observations professional life of developer mostly consists from
real life projects from the start more over most of persons who will become
really good developers are starting to work on them at the university.
However most of junior developers that I saw were lacking even basic
experience in
computer science(I do not mean ability to implement something relatively
simple, but ability to think and solve not to trivial problems on subject
domain).

How ever academics is probably one of just few places in student life where
he is able to learn how to approach such kind of problems. Basically it is
last place
where he has time to learn how to think(yes he may learn later, but it will
be much slower learn from those real life projects where such problems are
rare).  So I do
not think that writing of equation solvers is useless, and I strongly advice
you to provide good and really interesting academic related projects for
your students.

P.S. I really like Trac but I think that participation in open source
projects should not be part of education


Regards,
Pavel Petrochenko

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Roman Prykhodchenko <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello guys,
>
>
> I am a lecturer at Kharkiv National University of Radio Electronics
> and I have a proposal for you.
>
> My students have to make their science projects during this half-year.
> I would like to involve some of them in Trac to give them an
> opportunity to work on a real project instead of writing their own
> equation solvers or any other useless apps.
>
> Here is my vision of such collaboration:
>
> - I ask students who would like to work on Trac  project and we choose
> one
> - You select the supervisor for the student. The supervisor will be
> the student's "boss" and will give him tasks and help in solving
> complex problems.
> - The project should take student two-three months of time and you can
> decide can be developed by student during this term.
> - The student discusses tasks the supervisor and agrees them with me.
> - When the tasks are agreed the student begins working on them and
> writing his Project report.
> - During the term I coordinate the student and solve organization
> problems.
> - When the term is finished the student should complete all tasks,
> agreed on the beginning of the term and also the student should finish
> his Project report.
> - The student can continue working with you after the science project
> is finished, if he likes it.
>
> There some big advantages in such collaboration for all participants:
> - You get a contributor that is interested in working on your project.
> - The student gets the experience in working on a real project.
> - If Trac is interested to student he will continue working on it
> after the science project is finished.
>
>
> I will not require any payments for the student.
>
> Please consider my proposal and tell me what do you think about such
> collaboration.
> You can contact me by e-mail, Google talk: [email protected] or
> Skype: rprykhodchenko
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Roman Prykhodchenko
>
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