On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Randy Love <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thus, if you have a 3 hop path, and you are in an area where
> the 3 hop path can be fulfilled, your packet will go thru 3
> different hops. Please note, this does not necessarily mean
> 3 different digipeaters. This means 3 different relays of your
> packet expanding outward in all directions!

And even that is not accurate. You are telling your packet to go three
levels (hops) outwards from your location.

If there are only 3 digipeaters that can be accessed in your area, you
will get three hops. If there are more, you'll activate more.

Let's say you are in an area where three digipeaters can hear you
directly, you'll be digipeated by all three (first hop). If each of
those are heard by 3 more unique digipeaters, you'll get digipeated by
those (second hop). If each of those digipeaters can be heard by 3
more unique digipeaters, you'll get digipeated by those (third hop).

Start counting. 3 digipeaters on hop one, 9 on hop two, and 27 on hop
three. That's 39 digipeaters total. Obviously this is a simplified
mathematical abstraction, and probably doesn't exist anywhere. In some
areas, you might only hit one digipeater on the first hop, or maybe 6
or 7... Each digipeater can be heard by a variable number of other
digipeaters, which may or may not overlap with other coverage areas.

If you want to see what kind of impact you are having, use the aprs.fi
info page for your local digipeater, and look at the section that has
"Stations heard directly by (your local digi)" copy down all the
callsigns of the stations listed there as a digipeater. Do the same
for each of those stations, and then once more again. Now, if you're
heard by more than one digipeater on the first hop, go back and start
all over. You'll probably find many duplicates because the digipeaters
usually make a mesh rather than straight lines of propagation, but one
thing you'll find out in a hurry, is that the number of digipeaters
add up in a big hurry.

Then what you need to do, is to figure out just how far each of those
digipeaters cover. You can get a bit of an idea of that area by
clicking on the "show map" link on the "Stations heard directly" line
of the digipeater's info page.

You also have to remember that the information collected by aprs.fi is
all filtered data. The collected information is only the first packet
to make it to the APRS-IS stream, as all the others are discarded.
This means that we are only looking at a small subset of the number of
packets bouncing around the network.

I've asked Hessu (webguru at aprs.fi) to create a routine to automate
all of the above for you, so that people could simply click on a link
to see "Just how bad am I hammering the network", but Hessu is
concerned that instead of people using it to reduce their impact, some
would go the other way, and deliberately try to make as large of a
splot on the map as possible.

James
VE6SRV

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