On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Peter Tribble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:24 PM, John Plocher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > Joerg Schilling wrote:
>  >  > OpenSolaris is not a Project but the codebase for many projects.
>  >  > This is why we cannot have a distro called "OpenSolaris".
>  >
>  >  Why is this a bad thing?  IMO, it is not very confusing to be told
>  >  that the OpenSolaris distro is a product that is made up out of the
>  >  OpenSolaris codebase developed by the OpenSolaris Community over on
>  >  a web site called OpenSolaris.org.
>
>  A minor issue is that we've spent some time attempting to
>  explain to people that this isn't the case.
>
>  And while I support the general idea that there should be an OpenSolaris
>  distribution, I would argue that it is the OpenSolaris community (or its
>  elected representatives, the OGB) that should make such a decision,
>  rather than having it forced on it from outside. And that, furthermore, if
>  there were such an OpenSolaris distribution then it should be up to the
>  OpenSolaris community (or its elected representatives, the OGB) to
>  decide what that distribution should look like (or maybe just choose one
>  of those available to us).

I don't believe such a thing will ever work. I think Debian is proof
that a completely democracy-based process to a distribution leads to a
stagnant distribution that few people want to use and a bad reputation
among companies. Despite Debian's vaunted stability, they have the
least ISV support of any well-known GNU/Linux distribution.

I strongly believe that you must have a corporation helping drive a
project: Ubuntu, Fedora, etc. are all proof of that to me.

>  Even if Indiana == OpenSolaris were the right decision, having it
>  forced on the community is bound to create bad feeling and opposition.
>
>  I'm not convinced that Indiana is that OpenSolaris distribution. If that
>  positioning were dropped, then Indiana would be free to stand on its
>  own as a truly remarkable piece of work, and the divisiveness that has
>  ensued would not come about. And who knows, the community might
>  then be able to adopt it as its own.

I am. Look at the press. Long before Sun ever announced or decided
that Indiana was OpenSolaris, the press was already calling it
OpenSolaris, and a preview of what was to come in Solaris.

Many users and technology enthusiasts are excited, nay elated, at
seeing the fruits of years of labour from many hard-working engineers
presented in Indiana.

-- 
Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst
http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/

"To err is human -- and to blame it on a computer is even more so." -
Robert Orben
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