Michael Albinus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Kai Gro�johann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>> I would like to connect to an ftp server in two hops. One over `sshx'
>>> to a server behind a firewall, and thence via ftp to a second server
>>> inside that firewall. Now I understand that 'ftp isn't a member of
>>> `tramp-multi-connection-function-alist', so this isn't supported
>>> out-of-the-box.
>
> [...]
>
>> So whereas multi-hop-with-inline just needs a single shell, doing multi-hop
>> with out-of-band methods requires O(n) shells where n is the number of hops.
>>
>> FTP is similar to an out-of-band method because the protocol has a control
>> connection (for sending commands like cd and dir) and then establishes
>> additional data connections for actual file transfer.
>
> One could allow out-of-band methods as _last_ hop only. This would
> reduce the logic to 2 connections. And for methods like ftp and smb it
> wouldn't make sense otherwise.
I'm looking at `tramp.el', and I'm wondering if we could define a
method that would do just this. I.e. only be permitted as the last
hop, and use ftp (or any out-of-band mechanism, I suppose). I suppose
we'd need to define an action that could be handled by
`tramp-process-multi-actions', yes? Or would this be a real kludge?
I'm new to `tramp' ... BTW - what's 'smb'?
>> But maybe the good news is that Ange-FTP itself supports a so-called
>> "gateway" feature. I never really grokked what that does, but it seems you can tell
>> it to rsh to another host to invoke ftp from there. I think Ange-FTP can
>> then use rcp to transfer the files between the local system and the gateway
>> host. Ange-FTP stems from the before-SSH times, but I guess that whatever its
>> methods are for rsh/rcp, they can be adapted to use ssh/scp instead.
>
> It's a nice idea to map /multi:ssh:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:ftp:[EMAIL
> PROTECTED]:/path/to.file
> on Ange-FTP gateways. Worth a try.
>
Well, according to the docs, in order to get the gateway option to
work with `ange-ftp', one has to:
Using NFS and symlinks, make sure that there is a shared directory with
the *same* name between the local machine and the gateway machine.
This directory is necessary for temporary files created by ange-ftp.
That's not going to happen in my case.
--
Michael Herstine
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