Understood. As far as logic goes... If cf_sql_float is converted to cf_sql_double in Adobe CF, then changing the queryparam to cf_sql_double would change absolutely NOTHING about the way Transfer works on existing ColdFusion installations. I will do the testing, but I think we can make a safe bet that since float becomes double anyway, then double won't break a single thing, but instead only fix Railo.
On Aug 14, 5:29 pm, Mark Mandel <mark.man...@gmail.com> wrote: > You will need to check that when using cf_sql_double works for inserts, > updates and selects for: > > all integer values > all floating point numbers as well > > Across all the databases. > > My issue is not with whether or not it is a bug. My issue is if it's going > to break Transfer for 99% of Transfer's user base, which use Adobe > ColdFusion. > > Mark > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:13 AM, whostheJBoss > <dotfus...@changethings.org>wrote: > > > > > Sure, can you give me a tiny bit of direction on what needs to be > > tested? What kind of values I need to try, etc. > > > I don't have access to an Oracle server at the moment, so that's the > > only one I can't test. Jennifer seems to be a veteran at this though, > > so perhaps she could take my test case and try it on her server? > > > The reason I'm so passionate about it is because I want it to work > > correctly. I don't like having to modify my Transfer away from the > > version you provide just to get this working. > > > I am at CFUnited right now, have been hanging out with a lot of > > different people and getting opinions. EVERY single person I have > > talked to, including top-level developers whose names you know (and > > some people you know personally), agree that this is a bug in Adobe CF > > and a bug in Transfer that reflects that. You, as the developer, > > wouldn't have had any way to really know this though without hitting > > my test case. So, I can't blame you for defending your point. > > > The reason I'm seeing the error now is because I'm building a Facebook > > application and they now have long IDs and recommend using BIGINT to > > store the ID. I'm sure more people will begin to see this behavior as > > well soon. > > > If all FLOAT become DOUBLE to Adobe, then there is technically no such > > thing as FLOAT in Adobe CF. So why do they even represent it as an > > option? > > > If FLOAT becomes DOUBLE, then using double in Transfer is the same as > > using FLOAT as far as ColdFusion is concerned, so none of the > > databases should break because they are ALREADY getting a double. > > > If: cf_sql_float in CF is really cf_sql_double, then changing your > > line of code to cf_sql_double won't change ANYTHING about how CF > > servers handle it. They are already doing everything as double. > > > The only thing this would change would be that Railo would begin to > > work, since it DOES distinguish FLOAT from DOUBLE. > > > On Aug 14, 3:00 pm, Mark Mandel <mark.man...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > whostheJBoss, > > > > You seem pretty passionate about this, which is fair enough. > > > > The thing is though - this needs to be tested on: > > > > CF7, Oracle, MySQL, SQLServer, Postgres > > > CF8, Oracle, MySQL, SQLServer, Postgres > > > CF9, Oracle, MySQL, SQLServer, Postgres > > > Railo, Oracle, MySQL, SQLServer, Postgres > > > > Are you willing to do the testing? > > > > Mark > > > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 5:27 AM, Jennifer Larkin <jlar...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > And according to Mark's message, double isn't compatible across > > > > databases and while it is compatible across the two mentioned in this > > > > thread, those are not the only two databases. Which do you think is > > > > more reasonable for him: > > > > supporting a database that doesn't support double > > > > fixing an extreme edge case involving railo and 9 digit integer > > > > precision that until now, you are the only one to encounter > > > > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:17 PM, > > > > whostheJBoss<dotfus...@changethings.org> wrote: > > > > > > But double works in both... > > > > > > On Aug 13, 6:02 pm, Mark Mandel <mark.man...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> When I wrote it, 'float' was the only cfqueryparam that worked > > across > > > > >> databases for both integer and floating point numbers. > > > > > >> I can't remember if I tested double or not. > > > > > >> This is where we start getting into the differences between CF > > > > engines... > > > > >> and there is not much I can do about that. > > > > > >> I break for one, or I break for the other :P > > > > > >> Mark > > > > > >> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 4:22 AM, Jennifer Larkin <jlar...@gmail.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > Since when is "working better than expected" a "bug?" > > > > > >> > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:04 AM, > > > > >> > whostheJBoss<dotfus...@changethings.org> wrote: > > > > > >> > > Thoughts on this Mark? This is definitely a bug in CF that is > > > > >> > > reflected as a bug in Transfer. This is, I repeat, NOT a bug in > > > > Railo. > > > > >> > > As of now I have to change the numeric mapping to double to get > > my > > > > >> > > insert to work... > > > > > >> > > On Aug 10, 12:10 pm, whostheJBoss <dotfus...@changethings.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > >> > >> Ok, well, I've taken this up with Railo and... > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/railo/browse_thread/thread/d8e20b98308. > > > > >> > .. > > > > > >> > >> Any thoughts on this Mark? > > > > > >> > >> If you want the short version... > > > > > >> > >> "What happens if you change the line from "cf_sql_float"to > > > > >> > >> "cf_sql_double" or "cf_sql_decimal"? I bet it's a truncation > > > > issue, > > > > >> > >> where ColdFusion considers cf_sql_float and cf_sql_double to be > > > > >> > >> equivalent, but Railo is correctly using reduced precision for > > > > >> > >> cf_sql_float (causing your erroneous value). To put that > > another > > > > way, > > > > >> > >> I suspect a bug in ColdFusion (not reducing precision on > > > > cf_sql_float) > > > > >> > >> is masking a bug in Transfer (using an imprecise type for > > numerics) > > > > >> > >> that Railo's correct implementation (reducing cf_sql_float > > > > precision) > > > > >> > >> unmasks. :) > > > > > >> > >> cheers, > > > > >> > >> barneyb" > > > > > >> > >> "I'm pretty sure all that's needed for confirmation is to > > change > > > > the > > > > >> > >> type from cf_sql_float to cf_sql_decimal or cf_sql_double and > > > > confirm > > > > >> > >> that that fixes the issue (just like cf_sql_bigint) does. > > > > >> > >> -- > > > > >> > >> Barney Boisvert > > > > >> > >> bboisv...@gmail.comhttp://www.barneyb.com/"; > > > > > >> > >> "Hi whostheJBoss > > > > > >> > >> Railo translate CF_SQL_FLOAT to java.sql.Types.FLOAT > > > > >> > >> then java.sql.PreparedStatement.setFloat(int index,float value) > > is > > > > >> > >> used > > > > >> > >> in this case, > > > > >> > >> i think adobeCF use java.sql.PreparedStatement.setDouble(int > > > > >> > >> index,double value) instead of setFloat. > > > > > >> > >> but this is definitly the wrong way, like barney has written > > before > > > > >> > >> "cf_sql_double" or "cf_sql_decimal is the way to go. > > > > >> > >> from my perspective it is wrong to change this to "setDouble". > > > > > >> > >> what do you thnk? > > > > > >> > >> greetings micha > > > > > >> > >> -- > > > > >> > >> Michael Offner-Streit > > > > >> > >> CTO > > > > >> > >> Railo Technologies GmbH > > > > >> > >> michael.off...@railo.ch" > > > > > >> > >> On Aug 5, 5:23 pm, Mark Mandel <mark.man...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> > >> > numeric maps to using cf_sql_float. > > > > > >> > >> > cf_sql_float is a parameter that will correctly handle > > floating > > > > points > > > > >> > >> > across databases. > > > > > >> > >> > It seems that Railo has an issue with how it is mapping > > > > cf_sql_float, > > > > >> > so it > > > > >> > >> > cannot handle BigInt values in the database you are using, > > > > whereas on > > > > >> > CF it > > > > >> > >> > has no such trouble. > > > > > >> > >> > Mark > > > > > >> > >> > On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:07 AM, whostheJBoss < > > > > >> > dotfus...@changethings.org>wrote: > > > > > >> > >> > > You happen to know what part of Transfer the bug is > > affecting? > > > > I'd > > > > >> > be > > > > >> > >> > > happy to take it up with the guys at Railo, just need to > > know > > > > what I > > > > >> > >> > > should be asking. > > > > > >> > >> > > Is Transfer checking the column type of the objects and > > then > > > > using > > > > >> > >> > > that type to wrap them with a cfsqltype? Does that mean > > Railo > > > > is not > > > > >> > >> > > providing this information to Transfer, so then it is > > falling > > > > back > > > > >> > on > > > > >> > >> > > the default cfsqltype for numeric, which in this case > > happens > > > > to be > > > > >> > >> > > float? > > > > > >> > >> > > Basically, is Transfer unable to get the type from Railo so > > it > > > > runs > > > > >> > >> > > this: > > > > > >> > >> > > <cfelseif block.mapparam.type eq "numeric"> > > > > >> > >> > > <cfqueryparam value="#value#" cfsqltype="cf_sql_float" > > > > >> > >> > > list="#param.list#" null="#param.isNull#"> > > > > > >> > >> > > And sets it to float? > > > > > >> > >> > > Thanks! > > > > > >> > >> > > On Aug 5, 4:52 pm, Mark Mandel <mark.man...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > >> > >> > > > Sounds like a bug in Railo to me. > > > > > >> > >> > > > Mark > > > > > >> > >> > > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:18 AM, whostheJBoss < > > > > >> > dotfus...@changethings.org > > > > >> > >> > > >wrote: > > > > > >> > >> > > > > You always manage to come in and say something very > > simple > > > > and I > > > > >> > go > > > > >> > >> > > > > "Oh yeah!!!" > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Anyway, CF9 has no problem with this, so it must be... > > a > > > > Railo > > > > >> > thing. > > > > >> > >> > > > > Err, a Transfer / Railo thing. > > > > > >> > >> > > > > So, what can be done to have Transfer see the right > > data > > > > type in > > > > >> > >> > > > > Railo? > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Thanks!!! > > > > > >> > >> > > > > On Aug 4, 2:52 pm, Mark Mandel <mark.man...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > >> > >> > > > > > You're also on Railo aren't you? > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Mark > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:17 AM, whostheJBoss < > > > > >> > >> > > dotfus...@changethings.org > > > > >> > >> > > > > >wrote: > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > By the way, thanks for helping!!! :) > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Before posting questions to the group please read: http://groups.google.com/group/transfer-dev/web/how-to-ask-support-questions-on-transfer You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "transfer-dev" group. To post to this group, send email to transfer-dev@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to transfer-dev-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/transfer-dev?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
