Remember that Telcordia documents are private and copywrited. I was advised by persons at Telcordia that as of October 2002 GR-63-CORE 1995 would no longer be available as the grandfathering period would be expired. Also since GR-1089 issue 3 has no grandfathering period, I was advised by Telcordia that issue 2 should now be out of print.
Verizon accepted the 2002 version of GR-63 at the NEBS seminar in Vegas last month after Telcordia agreed to a couple changes in the fire section and airborne contaminants section. Telcordia has sent out change notices to folks on thier subscription list. As far as GR-1089, if issue 2 is not available anymore, new copies could only be obtained by breaking copyright laws. I do not know Verizons position on issue 3, but since it is generally more stringent than issue 2 or provides clarification, and does not conflict with thier new checklist, I would assume they would be favorable, but that will be thier decision. The other 3 RBOC's participated in the development of issue 3, so they should be OK with it. However it will be tough for manufacturers to get things tested to the old version if it is out of publication. In which case Verizon may need to write thier own version of GR-1089 so that it is available to the public or accept the new issue 3. These are my opinions and not necessarily those of my employer. Jim Jim Wiese NEBS Project Manager/Senior Compliance Engineer ADTRAN, INC. 901 Explorer Blvd. P.O. Box 140000 Huntsville, AL 35814-4000 256-963-8431 256-963-8250 fax jim.wi...@adtran.com -----Original Message----- From: Gary McInturff [mailto:gary.mcintu...@worldwidepackets.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 6:05 PM To: j...@aol.com; treg@world.std.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Short circuit tests in GR-1089 Last I heard, and please correct me if not, was that Verizon had rejected the new standards much to the chagrin of the rest of the industry. Gary -----Original Message----- From: j...@aol.com [mailto:j...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 1:07 PM To: treg@world.std.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Short circuit tests in GR-1089 Hello All: Many thanks to all who responded to my question about this requirement. Many of the responses were quite interesting and persuasive, even though some of them were directly opposed. I think that the expanded description in the new third edition of GR-1089 helps resolve most of the uncertainty I had with regard to this requirement. I was not aware that the new edition of GR-1089 had been issued, so this discussion was doubly useful. Telcordia has now received some of my $$ for a copy of the new edition. Joe Randolph Telecom Design Consultant Randolph Telecom, Inc. 781-721-2848 http://www.randolph-telecom.com ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list" ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list" ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list"