hello
you are very much welcome chief because i would love to hear the ladies opinion
too! esp on a question i will ask after we are done with this?
thank very much for empahsising the desperation part because we often led
astray because off our despartion. Remember Pst Lync message when he was saying
that we eithr respond to the Holy Spirit of to the dark spirit but either way
we respond to something because it is part and parcel of purpose on earth (to
manifest the spirit). Abraham was tested of two things from one desire(Isaac),
His believe in
having a child at his age and 2 was does he have Faith in God to Kill
his son for him-(but thats for tomorrow).
Having started in the spirit, after being convicted that God does really have
the power to give him a child, he then went of and tried to make himself
perfect in the flesh. please keep in mind that if you do not respond to the
spirit of God you are responding to the devils spirit. A man may want to marry
a girl his father may not approve of but he may give his son permission to do
so but with holds his blessing from them there fore were there is no blessing
there is a curse. in the natural Abraham did not commit sin because his wife
Sarai
permitted him to go into he's maid's house and there came out Ishmael a
permitted son Abraham but not a God given son. He may marry that girl because
his father agreed but that marriage stands with no blessing leaving room for
curses to take place.
everything thats is not of God wants to Compete with the things of God,
therefore most times creating confusion to us on knowing what really is from
God. Ishmael and Isaac it started right here on their names, the beginning of
the chosen generation(Israel) and the Muslim culture (Ishmael)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:49:43 +0200
Subject: Re: Pemissible Things & God Given Things
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Hey Jay!
Is this just for the men or the ladies can get involved too? You know often
times we settle for an Ishmael because you will have waited for Isaac for a
really long time.
But I believe that there are keys that we can use to produce our God given
Isaacs in our lives.
But how do you know the difference between the two.
Read Genesis 15: 1 - 6, Genesis 16:1-15, Genesis 17:9 - 22, Genesis 18: 1 -
15, Genesis 21: 1- 4. You know guys I was looking at this story and it really
touched me. Lets study these few verses together and you will see the level of
desperation and emotion Abraham went through. It wasn`t easy. There is one
particular verse that just touches me because I can relate to it so much, this
Abraham talking to God and he says in Genesis 17: 17 - 18 "Than Abraham fell on
his face and laughed, and said in his heart " Shall a child be born to a man
who is one hundred years old? And shall Sarah who is 90 years old, bear a
child? And Abraham said to God, "Oh that Ishmael might live before You!"
Guys can you sense the desperation there? Asi Mwari Vakatendeka! He will do
what He has promised but how do we stay steadfast and continue to wait on our
Isaac? Why does it take so long at times. Personally i feel that when we
entertain an Ishmael we may be slowing down the release of Isaac! Also read in
the story how Abimelech wanted to sleep with Sarah but God stopped him, I
believe that the reason why God was so serious about this was not only because
He hates anything adulterous but Isaac was not conceived yet and it could have
messed up the plan and purpose of God to release Isaac.
What could stop the release of Isaac?
What ideas can you give in holding on until Isaac comes?
What Isaacs are you guys waiting for?
How do you recognise an Isaac when he has been released?
I love you TOO MUCH!!!!!!!!!
Chief
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 11:41 AM, jethro tinashe <[email protected]> wrote:
sup guys!
i see yal still going over Pane Glory, which is good for all the MEN who want
to obtain the shine of attraction if i read correctly from the discussions
going on.
my fellows please do tell me what you think between Permissible Thing and God
Given Things?
Often times i think we run out of patience to wait for the God given things and
go get the permissible things (Abraham and his first son -Ishmael)
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