I am only replying once to this. This kind of attitude surprises me. Being a
Linux group, I would think that privacy and freedom are tremendous concern
to you. I appreciate any warnings of something that will affect me! This
has everything to do with Linux. Do you think its ok for some government
stooge to remotely start your webcam and microphone and watch your daughter
get dressed in her bedroom? Or watch you and you wife in private moments? Or
come and arrest your son because he stumbled on an "UN-PC" site? I think
this will affect Linux,Mac,Microsoft and anybody that has a computer.
(quote)
Other then a direct copy (likely copyright infringement)
and along with a link there is no other comments in either post.
I do this so anybody that read this will know exactly what was said and
where it came from. It is self-explanitory so why would you need a comment?
I suppose you pay for all your programs,music and drive 55mph?
Please can we keep this garbage off of the list?
If you think its garbage to notify you of something that will affect your
safety and freedoms then don't reply to this kind of message.
WA Brown
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Lavigne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: [TriLUG] FBI director wants ISPs to track users
OK, only going to reply to one of these but can we keep the political BS
and talking heads off the linux list? I understand that this has privacy
concerns but what do either of the threads posted have to do with linux?
Other then a direct copy (likely copyright infringement) and along with a
link there is no other comments in either post.
Please can we keep this garbage off of the list?
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] was added to the killfile>
Matthew
enjoying the spoils of moving back to NY
WA Brown wrote:
http://news.com.com/FBI+director+wants+ISPs+to+track+users/2100-7348_3-6126877.html?tag=nefd.top
FBI director wants ISPs to track users
Robert Mueller becomes latest Bush administration official to call for
ISPs to store customers' data.
By Declan McCullagh
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
Published: October 17, 2006, 4:18 PM PDT
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FBI Director Robert Mueller on Tuesday called on Internet service
providers to record their customers' online activities, a move that
anticipates a fierce debate over privacy and law enforcement in
Washington next year.
"Terrorists coordinate their plans cloaked in the anonymity of the
Internet, as do violent sexual predators prowling chat rooms," Mueller
said in a speech at the International Association of Chiefs of Police
conference in Boston.
"All too often, we find that before we can catch these offenders,
Internet service providers have unwittingly deleted the very records that
would help us identify these offenders and protect future victims,"
Mueller said. "We must find a balance between the legitimate need for
privacy and law enforcement's clear need for access."
The speech to the law enforcement group, which approved a resolution on
the topic earlier in the day, echoes other calls from Bush administration
officials to force private firms to record information about customers.
Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, for instance, told Congress last month
that "this is a national problem that requires federal legislation."
Justice Department officials admit privately that data retention
legislation is controversial enough that there wasn't time to ease it
through the U.S. Congress before politicians left to campaign for
re-election. Instead, the idea is expected to surface in early 2007, and
one Democratic politician has already promised legislation.
Law enforcement groups claim that by the time they contact Internet
service providers, customers' records may have been deleted in the
routine course of business. Industry representatives, however, say that
if police respond to tips promptly instead of dawdling, it would be
difficult to imagine any investigation that would be imperiled.
It's not clear exactly what a data retention law would require. One
proposal would go beyond Internet providers and require registrars, the
companies that sell domain names, to maintain records too. And during
private meetings with industry officials, FBI and Justice Department
representatives have cited the desirability of also forcing search
engines to keep logs--a proposal that could gain additional law
enforcement support after AOL showed how useful such records could be in
investigations.
A representative of the International Association of Chiefs of Police
said he was not able to provide a copy of the resolution.
Preservation vs. retention
At the moment, Internet service providers typically discard any log file
that's no longer required for business reasons such as network
monitoring, fraud prevention or billing disputes. Companies do, however,
alter that general rule when contacted by police performing an
investigation--a practice called data preservation.
A 1996 federal law called the Electronic Communication Transactional
Records Act regulates data preservation. It requires Internet providers
to retain any "record" in their possession for 90 days "upon the request
of a governmental entity."
Because Internet addresses remain a relatively scarce commodity, ISPs
tend to allocate them to customers from a pool based on whether a
computer is in use at the time. (Two standard techniques used are the
Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol and Point-to-Point Protocol over
Ethernet.)
In addition, Internet providers are required by another federal law to
report child pornography sightings to the National Center for Missing and
Exploited Children, which is in turn charged with forwarding that report
to the appropriate police agency.
When adopting its data retention rules, the European Parliament approved
U.K.-backed requirements saying that communications providers in its 25
member countries--several of which had enacted their own data retention
laws already--must retain customer data for a minimum of six months and a
maximum of two years.
The Europe-wide requirement applies to a wide variety of "traffic" and
"location" data, including: the identities of the customers'
correspondents; the date, time and duration of phone calls, VoIP (voice
over Internet Protocol) calls or e-mail messages; and the location of the
device used for the communications. But the "content" of the
communications is not supposed to be retained. The rules are expected to
take effect in 2008.
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