>
>
> Mono is a free implementation of .NET, so it is not a problem to
> distribute it. The problem with .NET is that it is covered by MS
> patents, so they can force us to stop using it when they wish -at least
> in the US-. That is a risk we should avoid, and removing mono from the
> default installation is a way to tell the developers that something is
> wrong with the platform. But there is nothing non-free in those programs
> as they are, so we can distribute them -as long as we are allowed to-.
>
>
I agree with this.


> > "With 42 pixels the window list is two rows high, saving space."
> >
> > It saves horizontal space, I agree, but I don't think very many
> > people intuitively use a panel that way in the first place.
>
> Even less people uses the GNOME default two panel -same height-
> combination because is intuitive. They do because it is the default
> and somewhat cool because it looks weird.
>
> It is important to listen to what someone thinks. It is good to apreciate
other people's opinions. If you think this is an error you still have the
priviliedge to distribute it as you like. I f you are interested in really
doing what people ask, you cannot asume a position. You can find out
people's opinion with a poll.


> > "> Things are more likely to malfunction in a Free distro
> >
> > Why?"
> >
> > I was going to say: 'Because the lack of nonfree blobs and any
> > proprietary firmware means less hardware compatibility', but I think
> > there's actually a much better practical reason to include the
> > terminal icon on the panel.
>
> Luky you didn't say it, because I would have said that nonfree stuff is
> a lot more prone to failure as we cannot fix the bugs in a program we
> cannot modify. And if a piece of hardware has no free driver, the only
> thing you can do with the console is start typing a new driver.
>
>
I don't think this was his point.


> > Many novice GNU/Linux users have no familiarity with the concept of
> > a terminal. Despite the wonders Canonical has done to make GNU/Linux
> > a first-rate choice for desktops, most users are going to find
> > themselves using the command line sooner or later for some function
> > that simply has no GUI equivalent,
>
> That would be an advanced function, so it will be meant for
> non-novices, people who can navigate a menu.
>
>
I agree this would be great help for novices. When I teach students to enter
the console, it would be intuitive if it would be on the panel. Of course, I
can make my own variations of the distro and distribute it that way.


> > and most tutorials automatically
> > assume you at least know what a terminal is; having the icon there
> > tells the novice user that
>
> ...GNU/Linux is a hard and scary OS for geeks.
>

It is for most people I have met.

>
> > A.) This is important and B.) When
> > tutorials tell you to "type this in a console", this is what they're
> > talking about.
>
> Whoever doesn't know what the terminal is shouldn't be tinkering with
> it using tutorials that say "sudo something_important --with-a-hammer"


This is out of context. I think people should learn what they wish and it is
our duty to make it the easiest we can and not force them to learn the hard
way for the sake of it.


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