On Wednesday 24 October 2012 19:53:31 sirgr...@member.fsf.org wrote: > While I will admit I am not t3g's biggest fan I believe he does have a > decent point here. > > Ruben is not around as much as users would like. I would like to get bazaar
*This is all strictly in my unauthorised opinion, FWIW* IMO it only *seems* a valid criticsm. Rubén's time is finite, as such we can't expect him to do all the things that come from other distributions himself. The Debian Maintainers guide has it that they know from their history that volunteers get very little time from others and must be self starters. Further that getting commit etc rights takes time, you must prove the technical quality of your work and that your commitment to the project is adequate. From my own experience I know that in traditional software development testing takes the same amount of time as developing and unit testing the patch. So if Rubén is short of time then some things will get left aside for a good while and quality checking volunteer contributions may be among them. If I were short of time with a distro to make then until there is a regular enough flow of work to indicate that quality checking the volunteers is likely to pay off in time benefits I would not give it priority. Sorry but when we have only half a developer I feel the solutions to this are: a) If you're not an associate member then become one - we need Rubén to have more time, and the way to do that is pay him to make Trisquel development his full time job. b) If you want to volunteer then be a self starter and do what you can within the system permissions you've got. We've seen the start of this with people making wiki pages, SirGrant fielding issues etc. c) If you lack the skills or knowledges to help, but have the time. Then again be a self starter pick something you'd like to do and start reading the fine manuals and books. Do bits of b) to practice if there is someone to check your work if you want. Use the time you would volunteer to do this until you are ready.