It is a little hard to tell what you are saying and what you are quoting. This appears to be a quote from you:

"Freedoms are "marketing" and FSF is failing. I never guessed it was supposed to be a fight to ask people give credit to the GNU project where it's due. Instead, they take the deus ex machina-- Linus Torvalds -- and leave the real issue unaddressed."

First, carefully watch a few of Stallman's videos and read his essays before deciding what the whole movement is about.

Second, let's take your view that the FSF mission is to get credit for 'linux'. Richard Stallman is a genius--ask his friends and ask his enemies. As a developer he was in high demand, and was highly paid. He made enough money in 7 weeks to equal a year's salary. He single-handedly matched the output of an entire team of hackers that used to work in his lab as a way to keep a weaker competitor afloat. He wrote the gcc which even Torvalds credits as the most important program in GNU and that he was dependent on it to make his kernel. If Stallman made the gcc non-free, he would have made a lot of money from that. So what do we have?

1.) Harvard graduate, top-notch programmer, was nominated for and won the genius grant, given several awards and honorary doctorates from around the world.

2.) He chose to live in his office and travel around the world giving speeches instead of continuing his lucrative career, and having a normal life.

3.) The two-hour speeches he gives contains at most 5 minutes of commentary on the naming issue. The rest makes no mention Torvalds. In this he ultimately asks for equal mention, not for all of the credit.

Now you are saying what again? That Stallman and the FSF are only about getting credit for linux?

The facts are indisputable: the linux kernel is only one part of the GNU/Linux system. This is like making a car and instead of naming it acknowledging all of the engineering that went into it, you just call it a V8. Doesn't it make a little more sense to call it by its make/model and say 'V8 inside'? Have you ever asked yourself if it is reasonable for torvalds to insist on all of the credit?

Even this is not the main point. It is unethical to not give the GNU developers any credit when without them linux would be an engine without a car. The main point, however, is that Torvalds has a different politcal agenda that is antagonistic to that of the FSF. By giving credit only to Torvalds, only his cause is given any attention. This is to say nothing of the open source people for whom ethics is not an important value.

It takes a lot of courage and sacrifice to stand up for what you believe in, even if the rate of success doesn't match what people like yourself think it should be. A lesser person would have caved or sold out and good luck having free software. You better hope free software is the only practical option if you are relying on open source and torvalds.


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