> I have had much trouble with this OS. Both on my desktop and on a laptop, > the OS will crash anywhere from 0-10 minutes after startup every time > without incident.
This is unusual. I have installed Trisquel on many people's computers and they have not had this problem. > I doubt this is an installation issue as the > Technoethical laptop came with the OS previously installed. > Re-installing doesn't help. Maybe a hardware issue then? > I have no idea what kind of programmer > fancied this project is even close to being viable for production when > it appears this unstable. There is no way in hell mainstream adoption is > possible with these kind of gaping bugs. If adoption of operating systems had anything to do with quality no one would be using Windows. :) Windows 8 and 10 are far buggier than any GNU/Linux distribution I've tried. In my opinion, the biggest obstacles to adoption of free operating systems are social ones. If there are any significant technical obstacles, I would say that they are the lack of free firmware for most WiFi cards and many GPUs. > The sloppiness of this software, combined with the lack of awareness and > concern of these bugs in the free software movement will be its downfall. > I am a programmer myself and this apathy deeply worries me. It is completely understandable to be frustrated, and I hope we can figure out what's wrong and stop your system from crashing, but your experience is not universal. Most users do not encounter this issue. I don't see any recent posts or bug reports about such any issue apart from this thread. How can you know that people will be apathetic about your issue before you've even told them about it? > I'm happy to > provide help to make this software more accessible and usable if someone > can help point me in the right direction. Great! I'm not much of a programmer, with just enough knowledge to fix minor bugs, but I think by now I have a basic grasp on how Trisquel development works. Here's a summary of what I know. As you may know, Trisquel 8 is downstream from Ubuntu 16.04. Many Ubuntu packages are simply rebuilt with the code unaltered, so Trisquel development mostly deals with exceptions to this: Some Ubuntu packages are completely removed, usually because they are proprietary or specific to Ubuntu's branding. Here is the list of packages purged from 16.04. https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/ubuntu-purge/blob/master/purge-xenial A handful of packages are maintained entirely by Trisquel. They appear to be mostly data related to Trisquel branding and artwork. https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/trisquel-packages/tree/master/8.0 Then there are packages from Ubuntu that need to be modified. Usually this is to change Ubuntu branding to Trisquel branding, or to address a freedom issue with an otherwise free package. This is done with package helpers, which are scripts that modify the source code of the Ubuntu package before rebuilding it. For example, Firefox is free software, but it comes with support for DRM, recommends proprietary addons, and doesn't have great default privacy settings. The "make-firefox" script fixes these things. However, Mozilla's trademark policy does not allow modified versions of their software to use their branding, so the script also changes references to "Mozilla" and "Firefox" with "Trisquel" and "Abrowser" respectively. Here are the package helpers, https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/package-helpers and here is a guide to getting started with them. https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/package-helpers/blob/flidas/CONTRIBUTING.md > Let's start with whatever bug > is causing the fatal crash on my machine. The culprit could be - a bug from upstream (might be worth checking Ubuntu's bug tracker) - a bug introduced by a Trisquel package helper - something specific to your hardware or configuration > Thus far the primary > culprits seem to be: > - indicator-application-service > - systemd Maybe you could try disabling indicator-application-service entirely for a day and see if the issue goes away, so that we know for sure whether or not it has something to do with your problem.
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