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Hi David,
Yes, this is the "Catch 22" of all "L Ron Hubbard" derived processing - that you need to remedy the physical ailments FIRST before you can proceed with auditing. And I can understand why - as you really do need a LOT of mental attention & optimum brain function to run such processes correctly. And Dennis was VERY specific about that very necessity as per that excerpt of "Do's & Don'ts" - he says "*You ignore them at your peril*" . And hence why I was quite happy to let TROM go while I applied the Transcendental Meditation. I had read a LOT of independent research results demonstrating improvement in both physical & mental function after using TM for a few months. And 4 months later I have found that it is also remedying my whole "case" as well - an added bonus you could say. Pru On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:57 AM, David Pelly <dpe...@execulink.com> wrote: > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org > ************ > > Hi Pru, > > Yes, I did receive your post yesterday but did not get around to replying. > > > Part of my response to what you post, I covered in my reply to Ant. > > From my research and experience, there is a lot more to this healing > process that was is commonly known. > > That is why so many people are having problems with this processing and > healing business. > > > > SEE MORE REPLY BELOW: > > > On 2-Aug-09, at 7:53 PM, Pru Joy wrote: > > ************* >> The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org >> ************ >> Hi David, >> >> I was interested to read that you suffer from significant "fatigue" as I >> do also. (I was diagnosed as having "Fibromyalgia" about 2 years ago.) >> >> I got up to Level 5 on TROM but then found that I really needed to remedy >> my brain function before I could really "do it justice" as per >> concentrating. >> >> It was around this time that Rudolph Eder sent me a Freezone Earth link to >> TROM to clarify as to whether I was really "sessionable" - see pertinent >> excerpt below: >> >> >> PRACTICAL >> >> >> >> General >> >> >> There is a short list of "Do’s and Don’ts" to guide you on your way. You >> ignore them at your peril. >> 1. >> Don’t attempt the exercises while your body is tired, hungry, suffering >> from disease or dietary deficiency, or while under the influence of drugs >> or medication (including alcohol). >> 2. >> The exercises are done with the bodys’ eyes open at all times. >> 3. >> Do the exercises alone, away from interruptions or distractions. >> > > YES, I DID READ THE ABOVE. > > BUT THIS RAISES A DILEMNA. > > BARRING A DIETARY DEFICIENCY OR ENVIRONMENTAL DISEASE, ALL DISEASES ARE > PSYCHOSOMATIC IN ORIGIN. > > SEE www.germannewmedicine.ca > > I HAVE TAKEN THE COURSES ON THE GERMAN NEW MEDICINE. IT IS BASICALLY > MEDICAL DIANETICS THAT GOES A WHOLE LOT FARTHER THAN DIANETICS. > > > SO IF YOU HAVE A DISEASE OR ILLNESS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ABOVE > MENTIONED, THEN HOW DO YOU GET BETTER IF THE SOLUTION IS SOME SORT OF > PROCESSING AND RESOLUTION OF THE PSYCHOSOMATIC CAUSE ( STRESS ) ? > > I CAN WELL UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A LIMIT. > > BUT WITHIN CERTAIN LIMITS AND PROPER TRAINING I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY A > PERSON COULDN'T DO TROM, IF A PERSON HAD A MIND STRONG ENOUGH TO > UNDERSTAND AND APPLY IT. > > IF THE CONDITION IS BEYOND THE LIMITS OR ABILITY OF THE INDIVIDUAL, THEN > THERE IS NEED OF A PROPERLY TRAINED AUDITOR, WHO IS ALSO PROPERLY TRAINED IN > THE GERMAN NEW MEDICINE TECH. > > IN MY OWN CASE I USED TO HAVE CHRONIC BACK PROBLEMS FROM ABOUT THE MID > 80'S TO ABOUT THE YR 2000. > > THEN ONCE I UNDERSTOOD THE CAUSE OF BACK PROBLEMS BY LEARNING THE TECH OF > THE GERMAN NEW MEDICINE, MY BACK PROBLEMS WENT AWAY IN A FEW DAYS. > > THE CAUSE OF BACK AND STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS IS THE PSYCHOLOGICAL AND OR > EMOTIONAL FEELING THAT ONE IS CARRYING AROUND TO MANY PROBLEMS ON ONE'S > SHOULDERS, AS IF THE FEELING OF HAVING THE WHOLE WORLD ON ONE'S SHOULDERS. > > THIS PSYCHOLOGICAL WEIGHT WEAKENS THE BONE AND MUSCLE STRUCTURE. > > IN OTHER WORDS IF ONE THINKS THAT HE IS SMALLER THAN HIS PROBLEMS THAN HIS > SKELETON WILL GIVE UP. > > IF ONE KEEPS IN MIND THAT HE IS BIGGER THAN HIS PROBLEMS HIS SKELETON WILL > REMAIN STRONG. > > THAT IS JUST ONE EASY OR SIMPLE EXAMPLE OF PSYCHOLOGICAL CAUSE AND EFFECT. > > > > >> (Here's the actual link: FZE TROM ) >> >> The point that stood out to me was obviously #1 - I was stunned - I had >> NEVER read this when reading through the whole of the TROM manuscript as per >> Pete's website - maybe I missed it somehow (I'll have to go back & check if >> it is there somewhere). >> >> Of course that excludes me from conducting the TROM exercises - JUST as I >> was excluded from receiving auditing in the CofS for the same reasons >> (although their original point of exclusion was having been treated by a >> psychiatrist & hence an "Illegal PC"). >> >> So perhaps you also would be excluded as per "being tired & suffering from >> a disease" - just a thought. >> >> And, oh yes, I haven't continued TROM since that revelation. >> >> Pru >> ps - I am very glad however that I took up Transcendental Meditation as a >> "remedy" for my brain function - I continue to experience tangible gains >> from meditating twice daily for the past 4 months - PLUS it doesn't >> "exclude" me for ANY CONDITIONS maybe because it is NOT using the mind at >> all - it is "resting" the mind.<unknown.gif> >> <330.gif>_______________________________________________ >> Trom mailing list >> Trom@lists.newciv.org >> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >> > > YES, GIVING THE BRAIN A REST DOES HELP. > > I DO SOME MEDITATION ALSO. > > THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT. > > DAVID > > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > Trom@lists.newciv.org > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > >
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