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1. Re: RI and The Secret (Leo Faulhaber) 2. Re: RI and The Secret (Pete McLaughlin) 3. Re: RI and The Secret (Paul Tipon)
Hi Pete Only winning a serious game by means of overwhelm is an overt. Leo Faulhaber 2012/2/2 <trom-requ...@lists.newciv.org> > Send Trom mailing list submissions to > trom@lists.newciv.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > trom-requ...@lists.newciv.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > trom-ow...@lists.newciv.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Trom digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: RI and The Secret (Pete McLaughlin) > 2. Re: RI and The Secret (Paul Tipon) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 20:10:06 -0800 > From: Pete McLaughlin <pete_mclaughlin_93...@yahoo.com> > To: The Resolution of Mind list <trom@lists.newciv.org> > Subject: Re: [TROM1] RI and The Secret > Message-ID: <5d0716b8-699a-45d9-93da-78c30e9e1...@yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi Colleen > I have been noticing that TROM processing is generally raising my tone and > making my life run smoother. I do not engage in the conflicts that I used > to stress over. I do postulate that things I need will come to me as I need > them and they do. > > I haven't run this changed RI long and have not seen a big change from it. > > My last big cognition was from Paul's statement that winning a game causes > the negative effects of committing an overt. This shocked me and still > amazes me, that both Wining and Losing reduce a beings ability. > Wow, I have to be very careful to not get into any games. Before I was > operating on the notion that I could play a game and win and that would be > good. Not so a win is as bad as a loss. I must operate on the basis that I > will have what others are happy for me to have so there are no winners or > losers. This is working nicely. > > Keep on TROMing > Pete > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jan 31, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Colleen Peltomaa <cygnifi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > ************* > > The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org > > ************ > > Hello, Pete, > > > > Please let me know what good results you are having with the combo, > thank you. > > > > colleen > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Trom mailing list > > Trom@lists.newciv.org > > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 01:31:08 -0800 > From: Paul Tipon <pti...@proftitleserv.com> > To: Pete McLaughlin <pete_mclaughlin_93...@yahoo.com> > Cc: trom@lists.newciv.org > Subject: Re: [TROM1] RI and The Secret > Message-ID: <67669db4-545a-4dbd-a363-de9c6113f...@proftitleserv.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; > DelSp="yes" > > You guys have really been busy while I've been gone! > > "I have been noticing that TROM processing is generally raising my > tone and making my life run smoother. I do not engage in the > conflicts that I used to stress over. I do postulate that things I > need will come to me as I need them and they do." > > [I really like hearing that. My viewpoint is that you are more into > a control of flows and they don't have to be the kind that 'must' be > a cause or 'must' be an effect everything is much more in ARC. I > feel this is how one goes from ARC into KRC. Too much emphasis is > put on ... which is it ... it better be cause ... it better not be > effect. Well just don't even characterize it in those contexts. > Leave it as simple as ... it went from A to B or from B to A or from > A to Q and from B to Z. Let's not be so serious, let's just have > what it was and nothing else.] > > "I haven't run this changed RI long and have not seen a big change > from it." > > [What change is that? Have I missed something?] > > "My last big cognition was from Paul's statement that winning a game > causes the negative effects of committing an overt. This shocked me > and still amazes me, that both Wining and Losing reduce a beings > ability." > > [I'm really glad that communicated to you. On this same line and > being on Level 5, I realize that the silly kick yourself in the head, > shoot yourself in the foot is the idea that all of the postulates in > the Postulate Failure Chart have a 'must' in front of them. As I go > thru each level, as the last step I look at what I was running and > get the idea that I don't have to have the 'must' and neither does > the pan-determined postulate. That little exercise caps the whole > thing off and puts it to bed for that session. I wind up with full > and complete determinism as does the other terminal (there is no > opposition in either direction). Not necessarily a win/win nor a > lose/lose. It's just an event, just an action, just something that > happened, no seriousness. Also no force fields or barriers or > resistance.] > > "Wow, I have to be very careful to not get into any games. Before I > was operating on the notion that I could play a game and win and that > would be good. Not so a win is as bad as a loss. I must operate on > the basis that I will have what others are happy for me to have so > there are no winners or losers. > > [Ok, let's take that carefulness off altogether. Ron's definition of > a win is to decide to do something and do it, to decide not to do > something and not do it. That's all. The only other factor to apply > is, 'the greatest good for the greatest number of Dynamics'. Don't > even get into the subject of overts and motivators.] > > This is working nicely." > > Keep on TROMing > Pete > > [I've been away for a while researching, working on something I > discovered about Dennis' TROM. In doing so I also went to the T4R > group and got introduced to other techniques which I am getting a > feel for. More on that in the future.] > > [Right now let me put some simplicity into the 'winning Lottery > number'. Don't even use the word, the term, the characterization > 'winning'. Using something of the nature ... These numbers came up > at the Lottery. I have the same numbers that came up on the > Lottery. This ticket has the numbers that just came up. Notice that > I'm using past tense. You can also use present tense and future. If > you use all three, see that you get them in the right order. It > would go future, present, past. Another thing to notice is the win/ > lose viewpoint has been eliminated and you are not in contest with > anyone or anything. It's also not so serious or special and more on > a ho-hum basis. Do not set it up as a Postulate Failure Chart > episode/event.] > > [Concerning the "Secret", I studied it when it first came out years > ago and found it interesting and very good. I also discovered that > there was a critical concept/idea, something that I can't remember > what now that was left out altogether. Can't remember what it was. > It has been years.] > > Keep on TROMing, Paul, Level 5 in progress > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20120202/e05207c3/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > Trom@lists.newciv.org > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > End of Trom Digest, Vol 91, Issue 2 > *********************************** >
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