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On Jul 3, 2012, at 9:08 AM, trom-requ...@lists.newciv.org wrote:
At that fleeting moment of a win you stop playing the game you were
playing and have not yet found a new game to play so you feel at
peace and happy. yes, but this suggests that you need to play games
and win games to reach this feeling.
Very good up to the point where you add in "suggests ... There is
not the suggestion of "need to play games". Deciding to do something
and doing it or deciding not to do something and not doing that
something is not a game. It is just a pure consideration and then
the attendant action or no action. One then looks back upon the
decision and the action of just that one decision only. The action
may be as simple as to just have an idea or a thought. If the action
is a physical activity doingness and one adds in a thought about that
doingness then there is the evaluation of the doingness and that
evaluation is not a component of or for Nirvana. One needs to just
consider was what decided was done and nothing else.
in fact what you are saying is that when you stop playing games you
feel good. so Lester Levenson's directed meditation consisiting of
holding the point of view:
simply being, that is existing
This does in fact give a moment of Nirvana. It is a very simple
action and a 'Win'.
Joy filled, lacking nothing, feeling you have everything you need
and harmless to everyone, not playing any games
Needing to also have these criteria makes one have to further
evaluate by one's emotion, evaluate, evaluate and evaluate, be sure
to inspect that one has not played a game. These are additives that
may or may not be concurrent with Nirvana for Nirvana to be
achieved. They are not a necessity. It is like doing Dennis' ...
'If this, then that..", bonding logic. No logic is required or
necessary for one to achieve Nirvana. Nirvana comes first and then
if one wishes, they may add descriptions, statuses and results.
is the method to directly arrive at Nirvana
this fits nicely with the whole operation of TROM of finding the
games i am playing and timebreaking them till i am playing no games.
As I have said in the past it is not the game that one is playing but
the fact that in a game one also employs 'games conditions'. There
is a distinct difference.
Keep On TROMing
Pete
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