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Hi Svoboda

Thanks and a good observation that the overt precedes the motivator by the 
natural sequence of events.
Sincerely

Pete

On Nov 7, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Svoboda Vladimir <captf...@yandex.ru> wrote:

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> It is excellent explanation! It will give more reality for beginners.
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> I noticed that comands follow such logic: 1) BECAUSE 2), 2) because 3), 
> etc... motivator-overt-motivator-overt... I ( motivator) because I was ( 
> overt)...  I am forced to know BECAUSE I was preventing from knowing, etc.
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>> ?
>> Level 4 ?to do?
>> Definition: to do 1. Cause yourself to take action
>> Definition: to be done 1. Be effect of anothers action.
>> The two postulates in a postulate set must exactly
>> complement each other. So where Leg 1 postulates ?punch in the nose? Leg 4 
>> gets
>> his nose punched.
>> 
>> Player? SD postulate?????????????? PD postulate
>> Leg 1?? Must Do????????????????????? Must Be Done
>> Leg 2 ? Must Not Do?????????????? Must Not Be Done
>> Leg 3 ? Must Be Done???????????? Must Do
>> Leg 4 ? Must Not Be
>> Done???? Must Not Do
>> ?
>> Start from Leg 4?s point of view:
>> 1) Forced to be done. (Leg 4 is forced to receive Leg 1?s
>> action)
>> 2) Preventing from doing. (Leg 4 is preventing Leg 1 from doing)
>> 
>> Moving on to Leg 3?s point of view:
>> 3) Prevented from being done. (Leg 3 wanted to be done to but Leg 2 won?t do 
>> it)
>> 4) Forcing to do. (Leg 3 forcing Leg 2 to do)
>> 
>> Next is Leg 2?s point of view:
>> 5) Forced to do. (Leg 2 is forced to do by Leg 3)
>> 6) Preventing from being done. (Leg 2 prevents Leg 3 from being done to)
>> 
>> Finally Leg 1?s point of view:
>> 7) Prevented from doing. (Leg 1 is prevented from doing by Leg 4)
>> 8) Forcing to be done. (Leg 1 is forcing Leg 4 to be done to)
>> 
>> 1) Forced to be done.
>> 2) Preventing from doing.
>> 3) Prevented from being done.
>> 4) Forcing to do.
>> 5) Forced to do.
>> 6) Preventing from being done.
>> 7) Prevented from doing.
>> 8) Forcing to be done.
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