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Hello, thanks and nice to hear from you. Would love to hear where you are on the levels.
Kind regards, Ludo. Op 7-dec.-2012 om 08:59 heeft Jurgen Kluft <jurgen_t...@hotmail.com> het volgende geschreven: > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org > ************ > Hi Ludo, > > Welcome to the list. Reading your story made me remember my way to TROM which > is not so far different from yours. > > -Jurgen > > > From: pete_mclaughlin_93...@yahoo.com > Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 23:28:08 -0800 > To: trom@lists.newciv.org > Subject: [TROM1] Fwd: Welcome to TROM > > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org > ************ > > Begin forwarded message: > From: Ludo Vermeulen > Date: December 6, 2012, > 10:34:31 PM PST > To: Pete Mclaughlin > Subject: Re: Welcome to TROM > > > Hello everyone, I have been involved in Scientology from 1989 till 2000, > mostly on staff in Brussels. I had cognited on what it was and wanted to go > OT, but always had an inner conflict with the high pressure and demands that > where completely fanatic for the outside world. So I left thinking there must > be something wrong with me but I just couldn't have it. But I still wanted to > go free, someday, later, and I left it at that untill about 4 weeks ago. > > > And then I stumbled over some videos on the internet about Marty Rathbun and > Mike Rinder having left and exposing the brutalities at Int management level. > And suddenly I realized the problem hadn't been me but the Church altering > the tech and enforcing it to the public. I blew so much charge and came right > uptone about the whole subject again. I couldn't stop looking for more data > in the independant field and I saw the world of difference between the > livelihood on one side and the dead, robotic TRs on the other. I discovered > what a wonderful being David Mayo was from his lectures. And then I came > across Denisses reminiscences of the early years and it was just beautiful. > > > And that's how I discovered TROM and I absolutely loved it from the > beginning. I have gone over the theory twice already and just from > understanding the concept I have gained so much ARC. There is an > understanding there of life that is senior to anything else, that is basic to > anything else and I notice it in my understanding of people and situations. > > > To give an example, just a few minutes ago I was thinking how much I have > changed already from understanding the mechanics of the mind and I recognised > I have less fears from communicating. I am much more outgoing. I contemplated > that it was my mind throwing those fears at me, not the reality of the actual > situation, and then I suddenly realized it was not my mind but me myself who > put it there and then blamed my mind for it in order to keep it in force. And > that started a line charge till my stomach hurt. And after a while I was > thinking I have to write this down or I'll forget what it was. I right away > after that realized this was yet another thing I had just ordered my mind to > throw at me. Of course I can remember this insight in my use or rather misuse > of my mind, and there came a second burst of laughter probably taking charge > off a lot of incidents relating to this. This is powerful stuff... and I've > enjoyed sharing it with you. Sorry if it's a bit long. > > For now, best > regards, > > Ludo. > > Op 6-dec.-2012 om 16:56 heeft Pete Mclaughlin het > volgende geschreven: > >> >> >> HI AND WELCOME TO HE TROM MAILING LIST. >> > You will at first be on moderated status where your posts to the list will be > checked by he List Moderator before posting. You can get unmoderated status > by posting an introduction about what brought you to TROM. >> >> You should > read through the archive of old emails. Many of the question you have have > already been answered there. You will find the archive at > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >> >> Be sure and visit the > sister site www.tromhelp.com where you will fing many files of TROM audio, > transcripts and books available for download. All these materials are in the > public domain so you can copy and share them with others as you like. >> >> > Keep on TROMing >> Pete McLaughlin >> List Moderator >> > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Ludo Vermeulen <ludovermeu...@fulladsl.be> > Date: December 6, 2012, 10:34:31 PM PST > To: Pete Mclaughlin <pete_mclaughlin_93...@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: Welcome to TROM > > Hello everyone, I have been involved in Scientology from 1989 till 2000, > mostly on staff in Brussels. I had cognited on what it was and wanted to go > OT, but always had an inner conflict with the high pressure and demands that > where completely fanatic for the outside world. So I left thinking there must > be something wrong with me but I just couldn't have it. But I still wanted to > go free, someday, later, and I left it at that untill about 4 weeks ago. > > And then I stumbled over some videos on the internet about Marty Rathbun and > Mike Rinder having left and exposing the brutalities at Int management level. > And suddenly I realized the problem hadn't been me but the Church altering > the tech and enforcing it to the public. I blew so much charge and came right > uptone about the whole subject again. I couldn't stop looking for more data > in the independant field and I saw the world of difference between the > livelihood on one side and the dead, robotic TRs on the other. I discovered > what a wonderful being David Mayo was from his lectures. And then I came > across Denisses reminiscences of the early years and it was just beautiful. > > And that's how I discovered TROM and I absolutely loved it from the > beginning. I have gone over the theory twice already and just from > understanding the concept I have gained so much ARC. There is an > understanding there of life that is senior to anything else, that is basic to > anything else and I notice it in my understanding of people and situations. > > To give an example, just a few minutes ago I was thinking how much I have > changed already from understanding the mechanics of the mind and I recognised > I have less fears from communicating. I am much more outgoing. I contemplated > that it was my mind throwing those fears at me, not the reality of the actual > situation, and then I suddenly realized it was not my mind but me myself who > put it there and then blamed my mind for it in order to keep it in force. And > that started a line charge till my stomach hurt. And after a while I was > thinking I have to write this down or I'll forget what it was. I right away > after that realized this was yet another thing I had just ordered my mind to > throw at me. Of course I can remember this insight in my use or rather misuse > of my mind, and there came a second burst of laughter probably taking charge > off a lot of incidents relating to this. This is powerful stuff... and I've > enjoyed sharing it with you. Sorry if it's a bit long. > > For now, best regards, > > Ludo. > > Op 6-dec.-2012 om 16:56 heeft Pete Mclaughlin > <pete_mclaughlin_93...@yahoo.com> het volgende geschreven: > > > > HI AND WELCOME TO HE TROM MAILING LIST. > You will at first be on moderated status where your posts to the list will be > checked by he List Moderator before posting. You can get unmoderated status > by posting an introduction about what brought you to TROM. > > You should read through the archive of old emails. Many of the question you > have have already been answered there. You will find the archive at > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > Be sure and visit the sister site www.tromhelp.com where you will fing many > files of TROM audio, transcripts and books available for download. All these > materials are in the public domain so you can copy and share them with others > as you like. > > Keep on TROMing > Pete McLaughlin > List Moderator > > > _______________________________________________ Trom mailing list > Trom@lists.newciv.org http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > Trom@lists.newciv.org > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom
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