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Ok thank you both for clarifying! 

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On 2013-04-15, at 11:22 AM, Pete Mclaughlin <pete_mclaughlin_93...@yahoo.com> 
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> Hi Cory
> Must Be known is the creative postulate. 
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> While sailing at night the skipper does not want to run on he rocks. He must 
> not run onto the rocks. Fortunately the light house light is on "must be 
> known" so he can know "must know" where the rocks are.
> 
> The wreckers want the ship to run onto the rocks so they can steal the cargo. 
> They turn off the light house light, "must not be known" so the skipper will 
> not see the rocks until its too late. The skipper "must not know" until he 
> can't avoid the rocks.
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> Keep on TROMing
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> On Apr 15, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Cory keeler <corykeeler...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Ah ok I suspected that before thanks. What I meant to write was must not be 
>> known vs must not know. Why does he include the be part? And must be known 
>> and must know. Whats the difference? Thanks!
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>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Pete Mclaughlin 
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>>> And welcome to TROM.
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>>> These two are the same postulate.
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>>> Keep on TROMing
>>> Pete
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>>> On Apr 15, 2013, at 1:05 AM, Cory keeler <corykeeler...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> > Hi everyone. I'm having difficulty seeing differences between the 
>>> > postulates of mustn't be known and must not be known. Are they not just 
>>> > the same concept but reworded? Any examples?
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>>> > Thanks!
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